X-man vs marvel girl vs Cable vs Franklin Richards vs phoenix (jean) vs hope summers

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Im sorry, it was a Asgardian made weapon which iornicaly was not used on the 4th host lol. Odin with all his prep and power as well creation of destroyer armor failed to do anything to the fourth host of celestials, but this mere after thought weapon that Thor used before aquiring the superior hammer of choice, is superior to Odin + Asgardian + Destroyer armor + thousands of years of prep?

Call me crazy, that is contradicting crap if I ever seen it. "Shrugs Shoulders" It sounds pretty fishy at best. Why not just make a bunch of those axes and let the Asgardians crush the fourth host? 🤨

Anyway, Celestials still never showed the same power as a race. there clearly seems to be some way more powerful than others.

Creation is not the same as offensive power. If your argument is he created a powerful Galactus, then why not do that in the mad Celestial fight? Why did he need his younger selfs power to simply revive a fallen 616 Galactus then? Not adding up.

Meph can be amp all he want. Still does not change the fact a pure soul normal human being can beat Mephisto.

Do not know who Ashema is. thats a new on on me. Scans?

That's where you're wrong again. Kang (who was disguised as Loki) travelled back in time to warp events, so he tricked Thor into enchanting it so he could kill Apocalypse in Uncanny Avengers #6. It wasn't enchanted during the time Thor #300 was written.

No contradiction involved in it at all.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
That's where you're wrong again. Kang (who was disguised as Loki) travelled back in time to warp events, so he tricked Thor into enchanting it so he could kill Apocalypse in Uncanny Avengers #6. It wasn't enchanted during the time Thor #300 was written.

No contradiction involved in it at all.

Yes there is Contradiction. The power of Asgardian Magic still trumps the inffinit power of the Celestials. Its that simple. Unless Thor Echantments >>>> Celestial Power? Right?

Originally posted by CadenceV2
So all that power, and they cannot even destroy Marvel Earth 🙂 or stop from being killed by a asgardian created weapon 🙂

I pass on your facts. Feats mean more to me than Inconsistant statements.

Anyway, Franklin wins in a nigh-effortless stomp. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
Ah, so another Enzeru-lite has graced this forum, eh? Your line of 'logic': "I'm right, and everyone else is wrong cuz I said so!" /hissyfit. Being an adult, and simply admitting when evidence has been presented that trumps your opinions, is entirely beyond you, obviously(your lulz-worthy low-balling in lieu of said evidence is blatantly indicative of such.) Sorry, but there's no need to waste anymore of my time on... Your type. 🙂

Anyway, Franklin wins in a nigh-effortless stomp. 👆

Ahh so our one of those classy " you disagree with me? You have your own views on the feats of fictional characters that cannot be measured in any real way? I smite thee" kinda guys. 😉

I disagree with ya, and see facts of inconsistency to those all powerful statements. Waste your time or not, its a debating forum. Do not like to debate, then don't 🙂

Either way is cool with me.

I agree with everything Cadence has said.

Which is why it makes it much harder to say that Franklin stomps.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Yes there is Contradiction. The power of Asgardian Magic still trumps the inffinit power of the Celestials. Its that simple. Unless Thor Echantments >>>> Celestial Power? Right?

Then you also have a gun Reed whipped out of his closet wtfpwning them.

Having said that I still think Franklin wins. His on panel stuff > Jean's.

Originally posted by zopzop
Yup, it's idiotic to the extreme. The Celestials are a joke now and using them to prove anything power wise is futile.

Then you also have a gun Reed whipped out of his closet wtfpwning them.

Having said that I still think Franklin wins. His on panel stuff > Jean's.

Fair enough statement. I just really hate the whole Celestials used as a uber benchmark these days when they are far inferior to their classic statements. People say Phoenix is not that good anymore, but then the same could be said for Celestials. I am glad others notice it too.

Originally posted by Mr.SunKing
[b]no, she's not [/B]

She clearly is.

Her raw powers are far above the others.

She will add the powers of the others to her power-set.

They are done.

Originally posted by Galan007
Lol @ your low-balling.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
She clearly is.

Her raw powers are far above the others.

She will add the powers of the others to her power-set.

They are done.

she gets overloaded then possibly dies