Exar Kun and Revan vs. Lord Scourge and Vitiate

Started by Nephthys2 pages

Once again you fail to reply to my argument. 👆

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You act like people care about you. 🙁
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Don't they? 😕

The only means to survive such an attack would be able to call up upon a Force Barrier or Tutaminis capable of absorbing the attack.
If Darth Bane is blown off his feet by an attack by amateur Darth Zannah, suggesting he can then survive against Vitiate's is laughable.

I never said Bane could survive Vitiate.

"Three centuries ago, Revan wielded the dual philosophies of Sith passion and Jedi tranquility to conquer his enemies; he even nearly assassinated the Sith Emperor."
―Star Wars The Old Republic Encyclopedia

Yeah cause Vitiate underestimated Revan not because Revan is almost as powerful as Vitiate.

Do I really have to go over the fight part-by-part? I didn't feel it was necessary, but okay:
1. Revan charges Vitiate, Revan is thrown backwards.
2. Revan unleashes attack, Vitiate is thrown backwards.
3. Vitiate unleashes lightning in succession, Revan reflects.
4. Vitiate unleashes final lightning bolt, Revan reflects back at Vitiate.
Revan: 2 points; Vitiate: 1 point. I accept your concession.

I love it how you desperately try to ignore the obvious fact that Vitiate didnt take Revan serious in the beginning and the moment he did, he one-shot him.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Forgive me, my Queen. Sinious is the greatest. I love him. Revan dies.

Apologise to him, not me.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Once again you fail to reply to my argument. 👆

You conceded at the start by ignoring a canonical source. 😬

Isn't Swtore considered an in-universe source? Hence it being open to inaccuracies? I didn't ignore it, I just pointed out that objectively speaking Revan never got close to assassinating Vitiate.

I somewhat agree with the notion that Vitiate really wasn't going all out in the beginning of the fight. First, he tries to beat Revan with mind domination, making the assumption that he is as vulnerable as he was before. Then, he hurls singular bolts of lightning at Revan, which are all blocked, batted aside, or evaded. Finally, Vitiate realizes that Revan is no longer a weakling to be crushed under his boot heel, and one-shots him.

They really aren't equals, it's just that Revan is powerful enough so that Vitiate can't completely destroy him. Even Revan himself admits that he can't fight against the Emperor for long, and that he stands little to no chance of actually beating him.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Isn't Swtore considered an in-universe source? Hence it being open to inaccuracies? I didn't ignore it, I just pointed out that objectively speaking Revan never got close to assassinating Vitiate.

Yes, it's an In-Universe source.

Most of the encyclopedias are.

Only way team 1 wins is if Kun does the essence transfer on Vitiate and uses the Force Blast to destroy Vitiate's spirit like he did to Freedon Nadd.

Kun could actually take out Scourge pretty easily, Scourge isn't very impressive without a lightsaber, something he could quickly find being rendered useless.

Kun is going to know he's in a fight of super powerhouses and won't pull punches.

However, taking down Vitiate won't be so easy, unless he goes for the technique as describe at the top... even Kun and Revan together would be hard-fought to take down the big bad of the last thousand years.

Scourge is fodder to either Kun or Revan.

Off nexus there is no reason to believe Vitiate would have an easy time fighting him Revan.

Team 1 has this.

Originally posted by carthage
Scourge is fodder to either Kun or Revan.

Keeping on saying this doesn't make it true. The Emperor making a new position just for him and having the the Dark Council fear him does not make a mook.

Originally posted by Based
Keeping on saying this doesn't make it true. The Emperor making a new position just for him and having the the Dark Council fear him does not make a mook.

And asserting that Scourge's status somehow means he's at or could even pose a challenge to either doesn't change the fact he is featless. The entire dark council is composed of featless losers, nothing in Scourge's title maks him comparable to Kun or Revan

Originally posted by carthage
Scourge is fodder to either Kun or Revan.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Kun is going to know he's in a fight of super powerhouses and won't pull punches.

However, taking down Vitiate won't be so easy, unless he goes for the technique as describe at the top... even Kun and Revan together would be hard-fought to take down the big bad of the last thousand years.

1. As will Vitiate. If he immediately unleashes his full power on Revan, the latter will be down for the count in a matter of seconds.

2. I disagree. With Kun and Revan attacking Vitiate together, The Emperor stands little chance of pulling a victory.