Found these - seems like breaking the lasso has less to do with strength and more to do with the fact that it is the Lasso of Truth, which is why Bizarro could break it - his perception of truth is not the same as Wonder Woman's.
In this instance 'Rama-Khan breaks it because Wonderwoman refuses to accept that he's telling the truth'.
I don't know anything about either of these issues,didn't read them, just found these on the web.
Pushing Earth.
Earth? Not so impressive it's kind of small. Now if this was a huge arse planet that made earth look like a speck, yes.
Also, depends on how quickly and by how much the planet is being pushed. Pushing a planet out of a solar system it's in quickly is not as impressive as pushing it out of a galaxy in the same time.
Originally posted by carver9it depends on how fast you accelerate push the Earth. Let's say a=1000m/s^2
Rank these in order.Stopping Classic Juggernaut forward momentum.
Crumbling enchanted Uru with you bare hands.
Killing a High Herald with a single punch.
Destroying a planet the size of Earth with a single hit.
Destroying Adamantium with your bare hands.
Breaking Wonder Woman lasso.
Pushing Earth.
Then
1. Breaking the lasso
2. Pushing the Earth
3. Destroying Earth with a single hit
4. Killing a high herald with a punch.
4. Destroying adamantium (the same size as the Uru)
5. Destroying enchanted Uru
6. Stopping Juggernaut.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah. Still not seen proof that A; Bizarro breaking the lasso is canon, and B; if it was done by strength.
I mean by that standard any mini series is non canon. I don't see people arguing that mini series like Superman/Shazam: First Thunder are non canon. DC had elseworlds prints on non canon stories in that time period. But since you think its canon, here is an interview from Matt Wagner.
http://alankistler.com/2012/03/531/
He said its in continuity but it doesn't means he would take care of everything that happened before. And here he talks about Batman: The Monster Men being the aftermath of Trinity which is a totally canon comic.
IGN Comics: I was really excited to hear you were doing Batman & the Monster Men. I was wondering if you could give us the set-up to this new story?MW: The whole thing spawned out of the aftermath of Trinity, which is the project I did a few years ago for DC, which is the story of how Superman and Batman first met Wonder Woman.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2005/08/17/matt-wagner-monster-man?page=1
Unfortunately, the only quantifiable feats are one-shot Earthbusting and pushing the Earth (I compared the two in another thread, and iirc, a one-shot Earthbust required more energy; thus, here, that feat would be more impressive).
OTOH, what is impressive in pushing Earth is how the pusher would not go straight through the planet like a BB through cake, and also how all sorts of devastating peripheral effects (tectonic shifting, earthquakes, atmospheric disruption) would be (as they typically are) avoided.
But overall I still say, one-shotting Supes to death would drop everyone's jaw like nothing else, if only because (afaik) it's never been done, not to DC's flagship hero.
(One-shotting Surfer or Thor to death would also be impressive, but they don't carry the symbolic significance that Superman has, so I don't see jaws dropping quite as far).
Originally posted by Mindship
Unfortunately, the only quantifiable feats are one-shot Earthbusting and pushing the Earth (I compared the two in another thread, and iirc, a one-shot Earthbust required more energy; thus, here, that feat would be more impressive).OTOH, what is impressive in pushing Earth is how the pusher would not go straight through the planet like a BB through cake, and also how all sorts of devastating peripheral effects (tectonic shifting, earthquakes, atmospheric disruption) would be (as they typically are) avoided.
But overall I still say, one-shotting Supes to death would drop everyone's jaw like nothing else, if only because (afaik) it's never been done, not to DC's flagship hero.
(One-shotting Surfer or Thor to death would also be impressive, but they don't carry the symbolic significance that Superman has, so I don't see jaws dropping quite as far).
Originally posted by abhilegend
SMP did it.
Oh when he flew through the alternate earth?
I don't know why, but it didn't impress me at all actually. Seems like something Superman, Hyperion, Gladiator, Thor or any of the mid/high heralds could do.
Surfer exploded a planet in Annihilation as well I suppose, and Thor's broken a few planetoids/the moon when he was beating on him/warlock.
Anyways, on the list it would probably be killing Superman with one punch (if he's the one we're using for HH).
Originally posted by abhilegendYeah, I did Not recall correctly...
Moving earth would take more energy due to the gravimatric forces of all the heavenly bodies on it.
2×10e32 joules = gravitational binding energy (GBE) of the Earth (this is what you'd have to overcome to one-shot the Earth).
2.7×10e33 joules = Earth's kinetic energy in its orbit (presumably what you'd have to match to move the Earth in similar fashion: more than 10x the GBE).
Both figures are >500,000x what the entire Sun puts out every second...and yet, a single death-shot to Supes is still more impressive. 💃