Shaak Ti(ROTS) and Count Dooku(ROTS) Vs Mace Windu(ROTS)

The graceful swordsmen Vs the sole surviving master of Vaapad.

Location: Dxun battleground

Lightsabers.

Force Powers.

All-Out.

Request
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Team stomps. It's generally accepted that Dooku > Mace if ever so slightly.

I don't think either of them is soloing for a majority, but together, I think they'd prove too much for them. On top of that, I actually think Dooku and Shaak Ti's fighting styles would compliment eachother quite nicely.

Yoda has outright told us that on a nexus, Dooku is a head and shoulders above Mace.

I wouldn't call Dxun a nexus.

JK, ignore me.

EDIT: O.K

Originally posted by Based
It's generally accepted that Dooku > Mace if ever so slightly.

Eh...

Windu gets skull****ed

Fated made a spite thread

Originally posted by Based
Team stomps. It's generally accepted that Dooku > Mace if ever so slightly.

Not sure about that. I don't think Dooku could replicate Mace's performance against Sidious...

Still, two-on-one is a clear winner for the two.

Originally posted by Q99
Not sure about that. I don't think Dooku could replicate Mace's performance against Sidious...

Mace was heavily amped from facing someone on the tier of Sidious thanks to Vapaad. Dooku isn't nearly as into the dark side as Sidious so his amp wouldn't be as substantial. IMO they are roughly equals but other forums have Dooku as the superior. It's debatable though.

If we're talking canon though then Mace >> Dooku since vapaad shouldn't exist.

Dooku and Mace are about 50/50 (perhaps 55/45 for Dooku).
With Shaak Ti, it's 10/10 for a team.

Mace should be supported by either Depa or Sora, then that fight would be much better.

Originally posted by Based
If we're talking canon though then Mace >> Dooku since vapaad shouldn't exist.

Team.

Originally posted by Based

If we're talking canon though then Mace >> Dooku since vapaad shouldn't exist.

Nah in Official Canon:

1. Yoda > Mace and yet even he failed to defeat Sidious.
2. Maul is able to hold off Mace + Secura.
3. Mace was shown fighting equally with Talzin on a neutral planet whilst Sidious was clearly overpowering her on Talzin's own personal Nexus.

So yeah Vapaad or not in Official Canon Mace defeating Sidious doesn't give him a default victory/superiority over Dooku.

That's a ridiculously biased use of Talzin, and that's coming from me.

Windu and her were equals with a blade.

Sidious was sort of kind of overpowering a Weakened Talzin using the force.

There is literally no comparison....

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Mace was shown fighting equally with Talzin

And then she intelligently flees after realizing he is about to kick her ass.

Originally posted by Selenial
That's a ridiculously biased use of Talzin, and that's coming from me.

Windu and her were equals with a blade.

Sidious was sort of kind of overpowering a Weakened Talzin using the force.

There is literally no comparison....

Not really. Mace also fought weakened Talzin:

Mother sacrificed much of her own form to resurrect me. This is why you've been unable to detect her.
-- Maul, SoD

Then Talzin - who had full control over Dooku's body - got destroyed by Sidious in lightsaber combat (Sidious also noticed, that she had acces to Dooku's body but not to his skill, which probably means, that Sidious considered Dooku as far superior swordmaster to Talzin).

After the fight she left Dooku's body and said:
I am whole! I am returned!

Which may means that she has her physical form again as well as it may means that she has all of her powers.
Even if she's still weakened, she's on the nexus of her powers. I doubt that she's any weaker then she was when she fought Mace (when she was already weakened).

Originally posted by Trocity
And then she intelligently flees after realizing he is about to kick her ass.

Or she flied after she realized that her plan has already failed.

Originally posted by Selenial

Windu and her were equals with a blade.

Sidious was sort of kind of overpowering a Weakened Talzin using the force.

There is literally no comparison....

Yep Windu was equal to a weaker Talzin with a blade. He was smart enough to completely avoid her magical blasts which he wouldn't have been capable of withstanding.

Sidious first stomped (a possibly weakened Talzin) in Sabers. He was then overpowering a fully powered Talzin at the heart of her power.

So you're right. There is literally no comparison.

Originally posted by Trocity
And then she intelligently flees after realizing he is about to kick her ass.

Lol nice attempt at making s*** up. At no point did Talzin flee from facing Mace.

Mace was still game to throw down like the true gangster he is.

All I saw was Talzin dipping. innocent