SHAZAM & Martian Manhunter Vs Black Bolt & Gladiator

Again, how do they deal with intangibility? MM has weakened the likes of Atrocitus with TP.

Team 2 wins

There's a reason pre DC got reboot
Cuz they f,,,ked it all up!

Now I hear DC is f,, king dcnu up as well.

Nah, DCnU has been good. Some good and some bad. You should check out some of the books, before you judge.

So what you saying Golgo??

That MM is going to use intangablitiy to hide from this fight?
MM is going to have to come out sooner or later and get that ass whopping he has coming.

I like MM and he can be hard to beat. BB is a lot like him.. Hard to beat, but I feel BB has the vers and powers to beat MM.

MM will have to come out of hiding once Shazam is taking a beating from Gladiator and BB double team style.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Again, how do they deal with intangibility? MM has weakened the likes of Atrocitus with TP.

Originally posted by krisblaze
So it is preboot then?

No, MM and Atrocitus met in Stormwatch. MM also tanked his energy/blood attack that tore a hole through time and space prior to their fight. Atrocitus had a tough mind to get into, because he had so much rage, yet MM still weakened him through a telepathich assault.

Originally posted by Golgo13
What's the highest being he has taken on in terms of telepathy?

Also, how does anyone on team 2 deal with shape shifting and intangibility?

Heat vision.

Originally posted by carver9
Heat vision.

Another energy attack that he can shape shift to overcome.

Originally posted by Golgo13
No, MM and Atrocitus met in Stormwatch. MM also tanked his energy/blood attack that tore a hole through time and space prior to their fight. Atrocitus had a tough mind to get into, because he had so much rage, yet MM still weakened him through a telepathich assault.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Nah, DCnU has been good. Some good and some bad. You should check out some of the books, before you judge.

I have.. That's why i said what I said.

U claim not to know anything about marvel comics, yet u make a fight thread and just say dc wins only cuz u claim to know only what dc can do.

Read up on some Marvel, then you won't make so many stomps.

I make a lot of threads here to and know more about Marvel, but I try not to make stomp threads if I know the characters involved.

All I'm saying is BB has the power set to beat MM.
Gladiator can hang or beat Shazam, but that fight is more of a toss up to me..

Edge to team 2

Originally posted by Supermex
I have.. That's I said what I said.

U claim not to know anything about marvel comics, yet u make a fight thread and just say dc wins only cuz u claim to know only what they can do.

Read up on some Marvel, then you won't make so many stomps

I make a lot of threads here to and know more about Marvel, but I try not to make stomp thread if I know the characters involved.

How are they ruining the characters, though? Mind you, not all of them have been good, but I've been enjoying a bunch of DC's lines.

And this isn't a stomp.

Pre-Reboot MM could phase through HV. Not sure about new 52 though.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Another energy attack that he can shape shift to overcome.

Gladiator is faster than MM though. He would cover the distance near instantly and probably drop MM (points to his fight against Zod and Cyborg).

Originally posted by Golgo13
How are they ruining the characters, though? Mind you, not all of them have been good, but I've been enjoying a bunch of DC's lines.

And this isn't a stomp.

No this fight is not a stomp..

Its a good close fight..

Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator is faster than MM though. He would cover the distance near instantly and probably drop MM (points to his fight against Zod and Cyborg).

MM was fast enough to catch the Flash in battle. He's not faster.

Originally posted by Golgo13
MM was fast enough to catch the Flash in battle. He's not faster.

So your saying Gladiator is not faster, cus you only know how fast MM is and know nothing about Gladiator or you know about Gladiator and know he is not as fast as MM or faster?

Clarification plz

Originally posted by Golgo13
MM was fast enough to catch the Flash in battle. He's not faster.

😐 Arguments like this drives me crazy. How fast was Flash going when MM hit him?

Originally posted by carver9
😐 Arguments like this drives me crazy. How fast was Flash going when MM hit him?

Well, there were two instances. Kinda. In Trinity War, we see MM grabbing both Flash and Superman. And in Forever Evil JLA, MM is reading Flash's thoughts, which were going light speed.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Well, there were two instances. Kinda. In Trinity War, we see MM grabbing both Flash and Superman. And in Forever Evil JLA, MM is reading Flash's thoughts, which were going light speed.

The thought part isn't a combat ft and Flash doesn't always go his top speed. Everyone has hit him so far. I wouldn't consider that a ft that proves he could keep up with Gladiator since we have no idea on how fast Flash was going.

Originally posted by carver9
The thought part isn't a combat ft and Flash doesn't always go his top speed. Everyone has hit him so far. I wouldn't consider that a ft that proves he could keep up with Gladiator since we have no idea on how fast Flash was going.

But it shows he can think at super speed levels. It's not like Gladiator always blitzes anyways.