Originally posted by Surtur
We can't equate showings with other showings? The only way we can say "x hurting Y is impressive" is if we know, via other feats, how durable Y is.You can certainly bring up low showings, but it doesn't change anything I said.
Thanos has physically harmed a variety of class 100's. It fits in with his character. Hell, I'm quite sure there are instances of him physically taking on multiple Class 100's at once..including the Hulk.
I'm sorry, but what? Thanos wouldn't be rocked silly by Superman unless you take Thanos at his lowest showings. The guy who laughs off Surfer's energy blasts, survives being in the center of singularities and all that? Ain't getting rocked by Hulk or Superman punching them. You can say brute force and energy are not the same thing, but why would you compartmentalize the durability of Thanos for no reason?
Hell, it took Thor with the power gem and also suffering from Warrior Madness to give Thanos a bloody nose, and you feel Superman can normally knock him silly? With a single "semi serious" punch? That..does not compute. So even if you want to say the Surfer energy feat doesn't show anything in regards to durability vs brute force..the Thor feat certainly does.
Surfer didn't have black hole withstanding durability when Thanos hit him. That's what you are not getting. Surfers black hole feat was one of his highest feats ever. Characters don't normally operate at those levels in everyday comics. Otherwise, every time Gladiator hits someone would mean they resisted planet destroying force (thing, colossus, etc.).
So to imply that Thanos overcame the power of a black hole is asinine. I know Thanos can harm class 100s physically. That's obvious. But so can other class 100s too (especially Hulk).
I'll repeat, energy blasts are not physical blunt force attacks. In other words, they are not comparable in any way. A bullet proof vest is not fire proof and a fire resistant jacket isn't bulletproof. Energy has burning and matter manipulation properties (like lasers) where blunt force have concussive and extreme impact (crushing) forces. Beings who can absorb energy and resistant against matter manipulation are very resistant against energy projection. But they can be easily affected and jarred by a strong blunt force attack. In conclusion, Thanos tanking Surfers blasts has no bearing on him tanking blunt force trauma.
You don't read a lot of Thanos do you? If you did then you would have noticed that Thanos never once no sold a high herald physical blunt attack. You would have a small point if Thanos did it once, but he didn't. Every time he has been hit by a herald he was shown to be affected.
Thanos never touched the singularity. He was only in the event horizon where even parts of his ship survived. Superman has survived in a double black hole without any damage and has held a phucking singularity in his hand. Superman has survived a Supernova head on and a Big Bang (one of the most destructive forces in the universe. Where does that place his durability? Still want to equate a comic showing with another comic showing?
Thor wasn't with warrior madness as discovered later by Odin. The power gem didn't yet amp him more than twice his normal strength. The proof of this is that pg Thor didn't quite outperform himself with the gem than without. He basically was giving similar damage but a slight notch more. Look at when he hits Drax before the gem and after. You will not see a huge difference. He wasn't really tapping into the gem fast enough. Eventually he would have been more powerful than Odin, but he never got past 2x strength before he got force blocked.
With that said, Superman is significantly stronger than Thor. His feats speaks for themselves. If a normal Thor and a PG Thor can affect Thanos (along with every high herald who ever physically touched him) then so can Superman.
Lastly, Superman holds back subconsciously. When he fully let's go, he one shots KILLS trans beings (not kos) and lift shit that weights over 100 earth weights up to millions of Earth weights. So again, a semi serious punch from Superman would seriously affect Thanos.