Dr Doom vs Black Bolt

Started by Mindset4 pages

Originally posted by krisblaze
Like I said...

The silence spell (have we seen this?) wouldn't do anything to hinder Black Bolt's abilities.

No, but Doom oneshot killing him would.

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Black Bolt koed Doom with the power of Aaron the rogue watcher.

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Originally posted by Surtur
Right, so Doom without prep is going to just bust out a shield that can absorb the energy? Hasn't Blackbolt has KO'ed people like Gladiator by whispering. If he decides to shout at Doom then Doom is more or less..well, doomed.

Give Doom some prep time and I am sure he could, but his standard armor just very quickly busting out something that can absorb the full force of BB's voice? Sorry, not happening.

Did...you read my post? I said he either busts out a shield OR absorbs energy. ANd Doom without prep has done both. His suit automatically absorbs energy and has drained far greater beings than Blackbolt.

He needs no prep. Just to stand still and watch BB scream to no avail.

And Doom's armor and forcefields have taken more abuse than Gladiator has. Especially by energy attacks.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Black Bolt koed Doom with the power of Aaron the rogue watcher.

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He used a machine built by Reed in fantastic four 375.

Originally posted by Jashro44
He used a machine built by Reed in fantastic four 375.
Abhi doesn't know anything about Doom, it's not his fault though, he can't read.

Originally posted by Stoic
Doom would place a spell of silence on BB, and then another spell involving ruby red bands of Cytorrak to end the entire fiasco.

He's not placing a spell of silence on him before he utters a syllable.

Originally posted by DarkRaiden
Did...you read my post? I said he either busts out a shield OR absorbs energy. ANd Doom without prep has done both. His suit automatically absorbs energy and has drained far greater beings than Blackbolt.

His suit has automatically absorbed attacks on the level of BB's scream. Without Doom having any prep at all? When did this happen? He has drained far greater beings then BB, okay. So when did Doom, without any prep..just on the fly drain someone far greater then BB of all their energy in a split second? Note, the "in a split second" is the important part. Him draining someone of their energy over time isn't the same thing as doing it all more or less instantly and on the fly.

He needs no prep. Just to stand still and watch BB scream to no avail.

So all the times Dooms armor has been damaged by attacks far less potent then BB screaming were just flukes?

And Doom's armor and forcefields have taken more abuse than Gladiator has. Especially by energy attacks.

Except the problem is he took out Gladiator with a whisper. He did not use anywhere near his full power. Gladiator is someone who can fly through stars and be just fine.

Anybody else think that Doom has probably planned for BB at some point? Not saying he would win (yeah I really am), but its not a slam dunk for Black Bolt.

Originally posted by Jashro44
He used a machine built by Reed in fantastic four 375.

I know. Doom also had the watcher's power, so it all balances out.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I know. Doom also had the watcher's power, so it all balances out.

I don't agree but I won't debate that since I don't disagree black bolt can one shot doom if he cut loose from what I have seen. Its just the machine black bolt used is an important piece of context.

Originally posted by Jashro44
I don't agree but I won't debate that since I don't disagree black bolt can one shot doom if he cut loose from what I have seen. Its just the machine black bolt used is an important piece of context.

So is Doom being powered up hugely.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So is Doom being powered up hugely.

Which was something you mentioned.....As I said I don't think we can really say who's amp was bigger but I would rather not debate that since I don't disagree with black bolt one shotting doom. I was just noting the context that wasn't mentioned.

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Originally posted by Surtur
He's not placing a spell of silence on him before he utters a syllable.

Shields can take enough heat until Doom turns down the volume. If not BB wins. I believe that his shields would hold.

Black Bolt

Why are people acting like Doom can't oneshot BB?

Originally posted by Mindset
Why are people acting like Doom can't oneshot BB?

Not sure. They obviously know little about just how dangerous Doom actually is. BB is certainly more powerful in a sense, but Doom can bend the fabric of their realities through sorcery, and his tech based on past feats should be able to deal with the remaining flack.

Good fight, Ill go with Dr. Doom to win in the end.

Originally posted by Surtur
He's not placing a spell of silence on him before he utters a syllable.

His suit has automatically absorbed attacks on the level of BB's scream. Without Doom having any prep at all? When did this happen? He has drained far greater beings then BB, okay. So when did Doom, without any prep..just on the fly drain someone far greater then BB of all their energy in a split second? Note, the "in a split second" is the important part. Him draining someone of their energy over time isn't the same thing as doing it all more or less instantly and on the fly.

So all the times Dooms armor has been damaged by attacks far less potent then BB screaming were just flukes?

Except the problem is he took out Gladiator with a whisper. He did not use anywhere near his full power. Gladiator is someone who can fly through stars and be just fine.

He drained Count Nefaria recently, Cosmic Hulk despite the PIS, and his Doom Bot drained Surfer. He also took Franklin Richards captive and was draining him.

Oh and he drained Nightmare.

^Lots of prep for some of those cases.

Draining the energy that empowers Nefaria/Surfer isn't the same as draining an attack from Black Bolt.

He can certainly drain energy, but there's no reason to assume that he can just up and absorb Black Bolt given Black Bolt's own energy control...

Originally posted by krisblaze
^Lots of prep for some of those cases.

Draining the energy that empowers Nefaria/Surfer isn't the same as draining an attack from Black Bolt.

He can certainly drain energy, but there's no reason to assume that he can just up and absorb Black Bolt given Black Bolt's own energy control...

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You are a vain, greedy, cruel boy!