Wolverine kills him in this scenario. You took away pretty much every advantage Spidey had going for him against Wolverine. He's still stronger and a little faster with his spider-sense but he has very little room to maneuver and Wolverine's not exactly a slow poke, either. Sooner or later, he'll gut Spidey since Peter has no way to escape.
It really disgusts me to choose Wolverine over Spider-Man because I think he's such a lame character but Spidey can't win here.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Spidey wins this. Seriously, without a healing factor, one kick from Spidey and Wolverine is turned to mush.Or he could just grab Wolverine's hands and make him punch himself.
wolverine is at his usual which means healing factor adamantium claws and everything.
aside of that wolverine is a top notch martial artist. you really think spidy can just grab his hands and treat him like a child? funniest thing is if spidy does such a move, wolverine was designed for such mistakes. spidy is losing at least 1 hand.
Originally posted by WeThemBoyz
wolverine is at his usual which means healing factor adamantium claws and everything.
aside of that wolverine is a top notch martial artist. you really think spidy can just grab his hands and treat him like a child? funniest thing is if spidy does such a move, wolverine was designed for such mistakes. spidy is losing at least 1 hand.
But as a wise poster said:
Originally posted by WeThemBoyz
but spidy is still stronger and faster
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But as a wise poster said:
strength has nothing to do with that. when someone grab you, you can easily evade and release your wrist with the right technique. i mean if hulk grabbed wolverine then yeah he is done. but spidy doesnt present anything on those levels to believe wolvy wont be able to evade his grabs. wolverine done it to roughouse who is stronger than spiderman as well as countless times escaped sabretooths grip. sabretooth is very close to spidy in terms of strength only more skilled. overall if spidy even tries to make a contact with wolvie he is losing limbs right away. his best bet is to avoid wolverine via spider sense, and strike him in the head causing him a knockout.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sure, Sabes is close....but does he have the added advantage of Spideys sticky hands?Thought not.
So it would be the equivalent of Sabes grabbing AND superglued to his wrists.
it workd on surfaces not people. even if so it doesnt matter. lets say spidy hands are super glued to wolverine. thats cool. wolverine has 30 cm adamantium claws. all he has to do is twist his wrist with the most simple technique from krav maga and basically his claws are cutting off spidermans hand. by the way this is a technique wolverine already used in comics. a thug grabed his arm and wolverine said "hands off bub". the thug kept holding his arm so wolverine poped out his claws did that technique of twisting his wrist around which caused his claws to cut off the thugs arm. same thing will happen with spidy since he has a human physique and same thing will happen to his arm. this is not about strength but the human body mechaniques.
Originally posted by WeThemBoyz
it workd on surfaces not people. even if so it doesnt matter. lets say spidy hands are super glued to wolverine. thats cool. wolverine has 30 cm adamantium claws. all he has to do is twist his wrist with the most simple technique from krav maga and basically his claws are cutting off spidermans hand. by the way this is a technique wolverine already used in comics. a thug grabed his arm and wolverine said "hands off bub". the thug kept holding his arm so wolverine poped out his claws did that technique of twisting his wrist around which caused his claws to cut off the thugs arm. same thing will happen with spidy since he has a human physique and same thing will happen to his arm. this is not about strength but the human body mechaniques.
It works on people.
And:
Krav Maga and body mechanics work, if you're on the same level (human vs human). Spiderman is decidedly stronger than Wolverine:
So yeah, he dies.
Spiderman: why do you keep hitting yourself? Why do you keep hitting yourself?
i already gave the reasoning and explained how wolverine will easily cut his hand off.spidy isnt by far stronger than wolverine who is enhanced in strength by himself. aside of that again strength doesnt have much to do with it. the pressure of the strength is squizing. however the power of squizing doesnt have much with the rotation wolverine will be doing with his wrist.no matter how hard spider man squiz his forearms. wolverine is twisting his wrist which doesnt have any force preventing from it to rotate. therefor wolverine will cut his hand off.
Yeah....Spidey is much stronger. I know Wolverine has enhanced strength, but its not near a serious Spidey. We can go for a feat war, if you like. Strength. See who wins.
Go grab a 5 year old. Grab them by the wrists. You honestly think a grown man would be unable to stop them from twisting out? Honestly?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah....Spidey is much stronger. I know Wolverine has enhanced strength, but its not near a serious Spidey. We can go for a feat war, if you like. Strength. See who wins.Go grab a 5 year old. Grab them by the wrists. You honestly think a grown man would be unable to stop them from twisting out? Honestly?
no i wont take your bait and make it a wolverine vs spidy strength feats war. of course spidy is stronger than wolverine however its not the way you presented it. as if its spidy and an average human being.
it is not the same. you didnt get my point. wolverine doesnt need to twist his arm out of the grip. he has a 30 cm claws made out of adamantium. he only needs to twist his wrist in order to cut spidy hand off. thats it. not even twist out of the grip, just twist his wrist. and if you believe he wont be able to twist his wrist then visit our friend ANATOMY.
as i explained wolverine already did such a thing to someone. and he was left with the guys hand cut off, and still holding his forearm
Originally posted by WeThemBoyz
no i wont take your bait and make it a wolverine vs spidy strength feats war. of course spidy is stronger than wolverine however its not the way you presented it. as if its spidy and an average human being.it is not the same. you didnt get my point. wolverine doesnt need to twist his arm out of the grip. he has a 30 cm claws made out of adamantium. he only needs to twist his wrist in order to cut spidy hand off. thats it. not even twist out of the grip, just twist his wrist. and if you believe he wont be able to twist his wrist then visit our friend ANATOMY.
as i explained wolverine already did such a thing to someone. and he was left with the guys hand cut off, and still holding his forearm
This thug he did it to...random human was it? Thought so 👆
Yeah, you'll have to post this scan. Because if Spidey is still holding on to his wrists, he's not cutting him.
And as for your friend ANATOMY, he/she will leave you when it comes to guys who are magnitudes stronger. Which is how strong Spiderman is compared to Wolverine.
I mean, each finger does this, casually:
And he lifts tanks and throws them, casually:
His grip strength is tremendous. Added to that, his sticky grip (which I've already defeated you on) and Wolverine isn't cutting anything.
And this is what I was referring to. Great twisting skills, Wolverine!
A bloodlusted Wolverine, no less. And seeing as Spidey has tanked blows from Juggernaut/Hulk, that knee to the gut which put Daredevil down ain't putting Spidey down.
first of all again you go with the strength thing. i already explained to you that if spidy is grabing wolverines forearm then all his strength will be squizing the forearm. it will not have anything to do with his wrist which wolverine can still rotate. you just dont get such a simple thing.
now if we are talkin here about spidy grabing logans WRISTS. then he wont be able to rotate them out of his grip. but he will be able to knee him in the nuts or headbutt him which will hurt spidy since adamantium skull and such. or wolverine will just flip spiderman over and stomp his face. and guess what happens once he is free?
the scenario you portrayed of spidy just punching one of the top martial artists of marvel, with his own hands while he is just standing and taking it. is just laughable to say the least...
Originally posted by WeThemBoyz
first of all again you go with the strength thing. i already explained to you that if spidy is grabing wolverines forearm then all his strength will be squizing the forearm. it will not have anything to do with his wrist which wolverine can still rotate. you just dont get such a simple thing.now if we are talkin here about spidy grabing logans WRISTS. then he wont be able to rotate them out of his grip. but he will be able to knee him in the nuts or headbutt him which will hurt spidy since adamantium skull and such. and guess what happens once he is free?
the scenario you portrayed of spidy just punching one of the top martial artists of marvel, with his own hands while he is just standing and taking it. is just laughable to say the least...
Re-read my post. I specifically said superglued to his WRISTS. You're the one who misread it and was fixated (wrongly) on his forearms. I always said wrists.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sure, Sabes is close....but does he have the added advantage of Spideys sticky hands?Thought not.
So it would be the equivalent of Sabes grabbing AND superglued to his wrists.
Lol. Headbutt? From a 5'3 (158cm if you're feeling nasty) guy? And you really think Wolverine would be able to make him lose his grip, when the Juggernaut, pounding on him, was unable to?
O...K....
Well, this has been fun. I've provided scans supporting my stance, and you...well, you haven't. And obviously want Wolverine to win, with the battle locale and the stips.
Which makes it worse when Spidey wins 😛
yes a headbutt from a guy who is 158 cm whats wrong? hell a headbutt to the chin with adamantium skull will make good damage. or a slight jump and break his nose.
first of all the juggernaut scan is a PIS. spiderman should have a broken spine. second of all juggernaut didnt have a real laverage to actually pount on spiderman. pounding on the back of your own back?you cant go hard with that one.
third of all the back can take very good punishement. however a headbutt to the nose will make spidy lose his grip and very easily. a knee to the nutts already hurted and took spidy down on several fights. hell spiderman and wolverine already fought and wolverine took him out with a kick to the nutts in case you didnt see it.
and if wolverine flip spidy and stomp his face of course he will lose his grip since he wont even have any real reason to hold on to his wrists in the first place.
as for scans? i was hoping as a member here you would know that someone who just started to post cant provide scans or post URL. thats why i wasnt quoting you when you posted scans. it doesnt let me post URL until i will have more posts or spend more time in here i guess.