Originally posted by Philosophía
Fixed.
It's all in good fun I know, but... Superman was easily dealt with in his last run in with Darkseid, and if the JL weren't there to bail him out, he would have been turned out. He needs all of the help that he can get, and he isn't heads and tails above the Blue Marvel. Adam has never been given a limit to the amount power, or weight that he can throw around. Not saying that he has no limits, just that there has been no evidence to suggest that he would be unable to complete feats that Superman has done so far in the Nu52 U.
Originally posted by Stoic
It's all in good fun I know, but... Superman was easily dealt with in his last run in with Darkseid, and if the JL weren't there to bail him out, he would have been turned out. He needs all of the help that he can get, and he isn't heads and tails above the Blue Marvel. Adam has never been given a limit to the amount power, or weight that he can throw around. Not saying that he has no limits, just that there has been no evidence to suggest that he would be unable to complete feats that Superman has done so far in the Nu52 U.
True Stoic
I think Blue and Clark is no easy walk for Darky
Originally posted by StoicThat's not current Superman. That's young Superman from 5 years ago. Roughly a year ago from that period in time, he was still leaping to get from one location to another.
It's all in good fun I know, but... Superman was easily dealt with in his last run in with Darkseid, and if the JL weren't there to bail him out, he would have been turned out.
Originally posted by StoicYes, he is.
he isn't heads and tails above the Blue Marvel.
Originally posted by StoicHow can you say that you're not saying that he has no limits, and then randomly say that there's no reason he can't do what Superman has done, without any kind of evidence?
Adam has never been given a limit to the amount power, or weight that he can throw around. Not saying that he has no limits, just that there has been no evidence to suggest that he would be unable to complete feats that Superman has done so far in the Nu52 U.
Are you retarde---
Oh, Stoic.
Now it makes sense.
DCnU Superman makes Blue Marvel look like the Riddler taking on Bane.
No its Superman and Adam Vs Darkseid
Wilson and Bruce are getting civilians out of the way as the battle gets heavy..
Also how do I put someone on ignore? Phedofilo is a prick and gets angry only cus someone feels Adam and Superman are close in level.. Get yourself together Phedofilo and remember its just comics... U f?!!kin Prick!!
Originally posted by Philosophía
That's not current Superman. That's young Superman from 5 years ago. Roughly a year ago from that period in time, he was still leaping to get from one location to another.Yes, he is.
How can you say that you're not saying that he has no limits, and then randomly say that there's no reason he can't do what Superman has done, without any kind of evidence?
Are you retarde---
Oh, Stoic.
Now it makes sense.DCnU Superman makes Blue Marvel look like the Riddler taking on Bane.
You seem to think too highly of Superman, you also seem to pretend that none are capable of defeating him, or being on his level. Does another character need to have no limits in order to be Superman's level? When did you see Adam actually strain when lifting something? Do you know who Pagan is? Adam defeated him, and looked to do it with ease. Go back to Pagan's run in with Thor, and Adam's feat concerning Pagan would be a pretty good one.
When did you see Adam strain against any physical task of lifting something? When has Superman been completely above anything, and everything that he has gone up against? You are the one screaming no limits fallacy, while making one of your own. Superman has not defeated Darkseid, while Darkseid was kicking his can. Superman was also able to fly at the time of the encounter. Until he shows that he can defeat Darkseid let's not make claims that he can, when he didn't.
Also if you have trouble discussing things without insults, you may want to seek sensitivity training.
Originally posted by StoicSince when is "Blue Marvel is not on his level" equivalent to "Nobody is on his level", moron?
You seem to think too highly of Superman, you also seem to pretend that none are capable of defeating him, or being on his level.
Originally posted by StoicNo. He needs to have the feats. Which Adam doesn't. And you can't say this:
Does another character need to have no limits in order to be Superman's level?
Originally posted by StoicJust means you're retarded. And applying the no-limits fallacy [while saying you don't - that makes you a hypocritical retard].
When did you see Adam actually strain when lifting something?
I'll put it this way:
Show me the single highest Blue Marvel feat [strength, speed, combat] ever, and it wouldn't even be a tenth as impressive as Superman's top 3.
I'll be waiting for your scans.
Originally posted by StoicWhere did I say Superman defeats Darkseid? I pointed out that your argument, like you, is very dumb - Superman was very young when he faced Darkseid in your example, so applying it to the current one is faulty. That version of Superman was less than 1 year away from when he was leaping, and 5 years+ away from the current one.
You are the one screaming no limits fallacy, while making one of your own. Superman has not defeated Darkseid, while Darkseid was kicking his can. Superman was also able to fly at the time of the encounter. Until he shows that he can defeat Darkseid let's not make claims that he can, when he didn't.
Originally posted by StoicIf I cared about your feelings, I'd have used lube.
Also if you have trouble discussing things without insults, you may want to seek sensitivity training.
I don't.
Originally posted by StoicThere are several characters that haven't shown limits. So we only argue based off what they have shown. With that said, a Blue Marvel did show limits. He hit Sentry with all his might and Sentry only went into shallow orbit. The fact that he didn't disintegrate Sentry, kill Sentry, or even hit him further implies a limit. Blue Marvel was physically damaged by hits from heralds. This shows or hints to a limit.
It's all in good fun I know, but... Superman was easily dealt with in his last run in with Darkseid, and if the JL weren't there to bail him out, he would have been turned out. He needs all of the help that he can get, and he isn't heads and tails above the Blue Marvel. Adam has never been given a limit to the amount power, or weight that he can throw around. Not saying that he has no limits, just that there has been no evidence to suggest that he would be unable to complete feats that Superman has done so far in the Nu52 U.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Since when is "Blue Marvel is not on his level" equivalent to "Nobody is on his level", moron?No. He needs to have the feats. Which Adam doesn't. And you can't say this:
Just means you're retarded. And applying the no-limits fallacy [while saying you don't - that makes you a hypocritical retard].
I'll put it this way:
Show me the single highest Blue Marvel feat [strength, speed, combat] ever, and it wouldn't even be a tenth as impressive as Superman's top 3.I'll be waiting for your scans.
Where did I say Superman defeats Darkseid? I pointed out that your argument, like you, is very dumb - Superman was very young when he faced Darkseid in your example, so applying it to the current one is faulty. That version of Superman was less than 1 year away from when he was leaping, and 5 years+ away from the current one.
If I cared about your feelings, I'd have used lube.
I don't.
Well as strong as your opinion may be, you have yet to prove a thing. Only a moron would get as nasty as you are when talking about unrealistic things like comic characters. Are you sure you're well? An attitude like yours is dangerous in society, well at least for you it is. You should consider getting it together, or seeking help.
Originally posted by h1a8
There are several characters that haven't shown limits. So we only argue based off what they have shown. With that said, a Blue Marvel did show limits. He hit Sentry with all his might and Sentry only went into shallow orbit. The fact that he didn't disintegrate Sentry, kill Sentry, or even hit him further implies a limit. Blue Marvel was physically damaged by hits from heralds. This shows or hints to a limit.
He hit the Sentry after being taxed prior to the hit. You're not speaking of his full strength. Also using the Sentry as if he were a light weight isn't exactly a strong point to stand on. I'm not saying that Adam doesn't have a limit, but I also know that Superman has one as well, or does he in your opinion? Adam's on panel heaviest lifting feat was him flying a state sized object away from the Earth without showing any signs of massive struggle. Hyperion's feat reaches into the Superman scale, and he is not, and has not been shown to be above the Sentry, Blue Marvel, or Anti Man.
I'm also guessing that Superman would have been able to do all of those things to the Sentry in your opinion? You're placing a lot on Blue marvel,while seemingly phasing Superman's ability to do better out of the picture.