Vitiate (no lightning) vs Yuuzhan Vong

Started by FreshestSlice5 pages

Look, you really need to stop trolling. Vitiate's showings with Lightning on a nexus show how powerful his other force abilities are. Vitiate is also supremely powerful. That means he is very good with a lightsaber and is incredibly fast, even though this has never held true enough anywhere else. I wouldn't be surprised if Vitiates TK actually worked on the Vong. Even if it has never been shown to be effective anywhere else at the speed needed to kill them.

I can't argue with TOR accolades, being supremely powerful already puts Vitiate (The supreme God of prep) well above other Sith. His ability to summon FLS storms of his own power, and kill entire dark councils and fight valiantly with a saber against HoT are all feats beyond anything accomplished by Sidious. Vitiate's prep and nexus feats mean he can take the Vong, and Sinious's conjectural postings are all supported by sound evidence

I created this thread with the intent of hosting legitimate discussion and debate, not trolling.

So, Stigma and Carthage, stop trolling or leave.

Vitiates lightning feat continues to disappoint IMO.

Just playing the Knight story, I'm reminded that Kira feels him waiting and gathering strength from the moment they set foot on the damn station, seriously, the guy had about half an hour to prepare an attack, why is it so special?

No one considers Xedrix super powerful because he nearly one shot scourge because we know that it was all a gathered attack. Why does no one seem to acknowledge that without lengthy time Vitiate couldn't pull that off either?

Originally posted by Selenial
Vitiates lightning feat continues to disappoint IMO.

Just playing the Knight story, I'm reminded that Kira feels him waiting and gathering strength from the moment they set foot on the damn station, seriously, the guy had about half an hour to prepare an attack, why is it so special?


Wait... really? Quote?

She says the Emperor knows they're there and she can sense it's a trap.

Kreia was expecting the Exile, Sidious was expecting Windu, Vader was expecting Luke. Dooku was expecting Anakin and Kenobi. The Son of Mortis was expecting the same duo and Ahsoka. None of their accomplishments count then right?

If it isnt clearly stated that the character boosted their powers with some kind of ritual or meditation, I don't see how it should matter. After all, half of the major fights include prep in it with your way of thinking. So do you have a quote like that?

Those were fair comparisons, considering they have hardly ever used prep and Vitiate always has.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Those were fair comparisons, considering they have hardly ever used prep and Vitiate always has.

To annihilate a planet or an entire dark council. 👆

Oh and thanks for admitting that this is %100 your opinion and its worthless as it is based on pure assumptions.

Vitiate has literally always used prep. That's not an opinion. In fact, the entire point of the JK end game is that this will be the only time Vitiate doesn't have prep.

Ignore it all you want, but it's plain for anyone who actually wants to see it, instead of defending a character just because most people shit on him.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Vitiate has literally always used prep. That's not an opinion. In fact, the entire point of the JK end game is that this will be the only time Vitiate doesn't have prep.

Ignore it all you want, but it's plain for anyone who actually wants to see it, instead of defending a character just because most people shit on him.

He is uber prodigious. Surpassed every sith prior to him with Natemha and became immortal. He spent another 1300 years experimenting and draining for more power while he suppressed insanely powerful force users and groups including the dread masters. Also stomped Revan with no prep. You're right, its pretty obvious that he is a weakling who gets defeated by HoT when absent prep. 👆

And I love how you ignore the fact that he was weakened when he faced HoT.

I like how that had nothing to do with my response.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I like how that had nothing to do with my response.

You imply that there are things that suggest Vitiate isnt actually strong enough to defeat the strike team or HoT without prep while there are a lot of things that suggest the opposite.

Originally posted by Sinious
To annihilate a planet or an entire dark council. 👆

Oh and thanks for admitting that this is %100 your opinion and its worthless as it is based on pure assumptions.

Scourge walks away without even looking because he knows it's coming...

Originally posted by Selenial
Scourge walks away without even looking because he knows it's coming...

And this is your proof? 😆

Nope, you implied that prep didn't matter when all of his major feats involve prep. Then you compared to situations in which the possibly prepped parties failed, as if that was an indication that prep didn't matter, when prep was not even involved in those situations, many of which involved sabers, something Vitiate has never been shown using effectively. It's akin to saying prep doesn't matter because Revan beat Malak, ignoring that Kun could wipe out an entire species when actually using prep. It's nonsensical.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Nope, you implied that prep didn't matter when all of his major feats involve prep. Then you compared to situations in which the possibly prepped parties failed, as if that was an indication that prep didn't matter, when prep was not even involved in those situations, many of which involved sabers, something Vitiate has never been shown using effectively. It's akin to saying prep doesn't matter because Revan beat Malak, ignoring that Kun could wipe out an entire species when actually using prep. It's nonsensical.

When possibly prepped parties failed? Not sure what you're referring to.

I've never stated any of those things. You openly said Vitiate used prep every time he fought someone except for HoT. Back it up, prove it.

Originally posted by Sinious
To annihilate a planet or an entire dark council. 👆

Oh and thanks for admitting that this is %100 your opinion and its worthless as it is based on pure assumptions.

Can't this be said for about half the things you say about Vitiate?

Originally posted by Selenial
Scourge walks away without even looking because he knows it's coming...

The most boss moment of the scene, IMO.

Originally posted by Selenial
Scourge walks away without even looking because he knows it's coming...

A child would have known what was coming. Theres no indication of prep at all in the scene and prep would be inconsistent with his actions anyway.