Originally posted by StealthRanger
Every fictional character has limits to what they can and can't do you god damn foolAnd TK isn't hax. Chaiotzu was stronger than BoSS Piccolo by this point
The dragon is limited by rules set by his creator, nor does take life..... what does this have to do with goku vs the 5
Like why bring him up he is irrelavant just like chiaotzu's tk
Originally posted by StealthRanger
No, he's limited to the ability of his creator. What does not being alive have to do with anything?Because BoSS Piccolo>the Nardofags in terms of DC
i just stated that he was limited to his creator and that he doesnt take life lol why repeat it. and you guys are the one who brought up the dragon in the first place.
chiaotzu is probably the weakest z fighter in the saiyan saga you bringing him up i irrelavant and doesnt prove any point.
theses five would destroy chiaotzu
and again you guys are bringing up irrelavant evidence that proves nothing
Originally posted by yungz22
i just stated that he was limited to his creator and that he doesnt take life lol why repeat it. and you guys are the one who brought up the dragon in the first place.
Again, alot of characters have limits and if Shenron can't effect the Saiyans, then it suggest immunity to hax of a lower being, to do otherwise is just circular logic
Honestly, what your point supposed to be? All I read was "I don't like it so it didn't happen"
chiaotzu is probably the weakest z fighter in the saiyan saga you bringing him up i irrelavant and doesnt prove any point.
He's still well and truly above BoSS Piccolo, who busted the moon even during the late Saiyan Saga
Also I wasn't the one who brought him up
theses five would destroy chiaotzu
and again you guys are bringing up irrelavant evidence that proves nothing
Well not my fault you're an idiot who sticks to no limit fallacies and brings up immortality as if it's some kind of "haha my character can't be harmed I win you lose" card, when it isn't and is a no limit fallacy
Originally posted by StealthRanger
Again, alot of characters have limits and if Shenron can't effect the Saiyans, then it suggest immunity to hax of a lower being, to do otherwise is just circular logicHonestly, what your point supposed to be? All I read was "I don't like it so it didn't happen"
He's still well and truly above BoSS Piccolo, who busted the moon even during the late Saiyan Saga
Also I wasn't the one who brought him up
Well not my fault you're an idiot who sticks to no limit fallacies and brings up immortality as if it's some kind of "haha my character can't be harmed I win you lose" card, when it isn't and is a no limit fallacy
Lol, and I like your new avatar.
Somehow, that reminds me of this...
Originally posted by StealthRanger
Again, alot of characters have limits and if Shenron can't effect the Saiyans, then it suggest immunity to hax of a lower being, to do otherwise is just circular logicHonestly, what your point supposed to be? All I read was "I don't like it so it didn't happen"
He's still well and truly above BoSS Piccolo, who busted the moon even during the late Saiyan Saga
Also I wasn't the one who brought him up
Well not my fault you're an idiot who sticks to no limit fallacies and brings up immortality as if it's some kind of "haha my character can't be harmed I win you lose" card, when it isn't and is a no limit fallacy
Kaguya by herself is a planetary threat so how and why a piccolo moon bustin feat along with chiaotzu and the dragon matter idk.
The dragon is only as strong as kami or its creator. The creator of the dragon creates rules and limits on the types of wishes he can and cant grant. Taking life is one of those things the dragon doesnt do
Originally posted by yungz22
Kaguya by herself is a planetary threat so how and why a piccolo moon bustin feat along with chiaotzu and the dragon matter idk.The dragon is only as strong as kami or its creator. The creator of the dragon creates rules and limits on the types of wishes he can and cant grant. Taking life is one of those things the dragon doesnt do
LOL, listen to what you're saying man.
You just admitted that Kaguya was only a planetary THREAT. That doesn't translate to a planet BUSTER. You DO remember that even King Piccolo was a threat to the planet, right? Hell, Global warming is a planetary threat. That's not a feat at all, lol.
No, Shenron will and CAN take people's lives. It has been inferred in the past. In fact, the reason they couldn't do so to the Saiyan's was because they were stronger than Kami, meaning that since Kami couldn't kill them, Shenron couldn't.
There are no rules to the Dragon Balls, only limitations, and very few at that, especially later on in the Buu saga when the Namekian Dragon Balls can bring back infinite people at a time, entire planets and their biology, kill anyone that Elder Moori can(so not much, but still), and basically have only one limit, which is that you can't bring anyone back if they've been dead for a year.
Originally posted by yungz22
he killed people he was able to control from what i remember?why does that have to do with mind control and how is this different than genjutsu.
and also what does this have to do with goku against the 5 naruto characters?
Um... Yes? Babidi killed several people by popping their heads after using TK to hear and decipher thoughts from billions of people from all over the planet EFFORTLESSLY. You DO realize that such a feat proves CASUAL planetary TK from a weak character like Babidi, AND proves CASUAL planetary level TK resistance from Goten, Trunks and Piccolo, right?
You're right, this IS no different from Genjutsu. Except that Babidi can control people to a greater degree than even Shisui, by amplifying the evil in their hearts. Not to mention that since the Z-fighters have TK resistance higher than anything ever fathomed by Itachi or even Shisui, the two highest of the high tier genjutsu users in the series, even Goten or Trunks in base form could tank the strongest Genjutsu in Naruto without wavering a bit. Very likely including Infinite Tsukiyomi.
Originally posted by yungz22
Kaguya by herself is a planetary threat
That stopped being a big deal by the start of the Saiyan Saga, plus planetary threat doesn't mean she's a planet buster
so how and why a piccolo moon bustin feat along with chiaotzu and the dragon matter idk.
Goku>>>Nappa>>>Z fighters>>>Raditz>>>BoSS Piccolo
The dragon is only as strong as kami or its creator. The creator of the dragon creates rules and limits on the types of wishes he can and cant grant. Taking life is one of those things the dragon doesnt do
Dragon can't take lives eh? Guess I missed the entire point of the Piccolo Daimao Saga, you know, to try and wish Piccolo out of existence