Originally posted by carver9
Looking at that vid...Thanos stomps. The Avengers by fts are far more powerful. Hulk alone held up New York City by himself and was punching so hard that the shockwaves was sending super humans flying across the city. Thor energy power, Ironman and Thanos handling them the way he did. Yeah, he stomps this and Darkseid at the same time.
I liked you better when you were joining the house of el. Don't flip flop on me boy. 🙄
Originally posted by Reflassshh
Carver got owned... again
😆 😆
He tried really hard, I admire his willpower. But sometimes I don't know if he's literally trolling or believes the stuff he is typing.
When it suits him for the day cause of a bad loss like earlier against PC supes which he lost another thread comes up. Perfect! Thanos vs Superman, he goes right to Thanos wanking. But he will betray Thanos the moment a Hulk vs Thanos thread comes back around.
Originally posted by Time ImmemorialI like him though, and he is very knowledgeable and objetive when hulk isn't involved.
😆 😆He tried really hard, I admire his willpower. But sometimes I don't know if he's literally trolling or believes the stuff he is typing.
When it suits him for the day cause of a bad loss like earlier against PC supes which he lost another thread comes up. Perfect! Thanos vs Superman, he goes right to Thanos wanking. But he will betray Thanos the moment a Hulk vs Thanos thread comes back around.
But when a Hulk related vs pops up he just goes Carv prime and start to lowball the shit out of everyone not named Banner.
Originally posted by Reflassshh
I like him though, and he is very knowledgeable and objetive when hulk isn't involved.But when a Hulk related vs pops up he just goes Carv prime and start to lowball the shit out of everyone not named Banner.
Yea, he tried low balling PC supes with non cannon cross overs, didn't work🙂
Originally posted by Surturyou don't understand. Characters don't operate with the same strength in every comic. Sometimes spiderman is stronger, sometimes he's weaker. That's why we have high showings and low ones. Characters don't hold back unless specified or retconned to. That means if a character appears to hit someone with the majority of their strength then they are. So Gladiator hitting meta beings with his full force doesn't mean he hit them with planet destroying force.
This line of thought makes no sense, because then it means whenever someone with super strength hits someone else and they survive..it's not much of a durability feat because we don't know if they are punching their hardest? Okay, maybe someone we know Gladiator does not want to kill we might say that, but someone he has no problems hurting..why would we not assume he hits his hardest?We know he can physically destroy planets, so unless he is fighting someone he has an in story reason to hold back on..why would we assume he was holding back? Now whether or not the person he is hitting has shown they are consistently durable enough to survive those hits is another story, but then you can't blame Gladiator for that.
We have the PIS rules to deal with what your are saying though.
Originally posted by carver9
Show us those speed fts you've mentioned from the cartoon.Uuuuummmm, Gravitron was stated to have the power of a black hole and he was casually lifting cities...Hulk overpowered his gravity powers
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1kXuHhNucX4 (think this is canon to Avengers Assemble as well) and again, in this clip he effortlessly lifts a city and was described as having the power of a black hole. He used it all on Hulk to no avail.
If you also look at that scene, Thor supported the falling City. Overall, the Avengers are far more powerful and they couldn't do a thing to Thanos. I'll be waiting for those speed showings and strength showings proving they could harm him.
Especially when two stronger characters couldn't.
He never showed the power of a black hole or the power to lift a city. Also, isn't that a different avengers than the new one with Thanos? They are not the same show.
Thor failed at supporting the block (not even close to a city).
Again, stating a characters high feats doesn't mean they were operating at that level in every scene. That is the fallacy.
Originally posted by Sensui
Alright I just quickly spent the past three hours trying to watch some Avengers Assemble episodes on youtube.Thanos look superior to Hulk and Thor, but so did Attuma in the episode Depth Charge until Hulk got the same glow Bruce Leroy did in the movie The Last Dragon. He then manhandled Attuma.
Attuma, as with many villains apparently never looked that good again, and was manhandled by Hulk and Thor in the episode Bring on the Bad Guys, heck one scene he runs from the Hulk.
And Attuma gets one shotted by Thor in episode 25, Exodus.
Hyperion in his first appearance looked better than the avengers in the episode titled Hyperion, where he stops the asteroid the Avengers failed to and manhandles everybody, taking Thor's cape cause he like the cut of his jig.
But when he reappears as part of Red Skull's Cabal he no longer is a team threat and instead takes on the Hulk in one on one brawls which Hyperion constantly gets the better of Hulk in episodes 25 and 26, Exodus and The Final Showdown.
But in episode 26, Hyperion gets taken down by Iron Man's Avenger Building defenses. Takes him right out in the most ridiculous manner imaginable. He gets snatched up by a robotic arm he can't break, thrown into a water tank, and frozen by some coolant gases.
So looking at how past villains fared over the course of a season I'm going to wait and see how Thanos's showings evolve over the season.
Right now he's superior to Hulk and Thor, but that can always change. I would say he's like Darkseid right now. Original Darkseid looked stronger and tougher than Superman in episodes like Apokolips Now where he killed Dan Turpin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0pcChyV6o4
Keep in mind that even this Weak Superman (he was put down and omega blasted earlier) was capable of shaking the city of Metropolis with his punches.
In the episode Legacy Part II a pissed off Superman managed to defeat Darkseid by redirecting his own Omega Beams back into his head, with the palms of his hands, in an explosion that wrecked them both. But Superman was tougher and threw Darkseid down to his slaves.
The first time Superman looks clearly superior to Darkseid is the Justice League episode Twilight where he beats him in a back and forth fight within Brainiac's giant planetoid construct.
By the time we get to Destroyer, a Darkseid merged with Brainiac is slapping Superman all over the place and states he is stronger than he's ever been. Superman gets manhandled, until he goes into the world of cardboard speech and smashes Darkseid across the city.
So right now imo Thanos is in that early Darkseid (Hyperion, Attuma), mode looking significantly stronger than the protagonists. By the end of the season he maybe struggling to defeat one hero in a pitched battle.
He's not on their level though. Remember when Luthor hacked the Watch tower and shot the beam of energy down to the city (that destroyed the building). The shockwaves from that attack took him out. Hulk and Thor withstood much more than that.
Originally posted by carver9
He's not on their level though. Remember when Luthor hacked the Watch tower and shot the beam of energy down to the city (that destroyed the building). The shockwaves from that attack took him out. Hulk and Thor withstood much more than that.
"Why don't I just destroy you and EVERYONE ELSE right now. All it would take is a single thought."
And now he's on their side. 🙂
Originally posted by carver9
Show us those speed fts you've mentioned from the cartoon.Uuuuummmm, Gravitron was stated to have the power of a black hole and he was casually lifting cities...Hulk overpowered his gravity powers
Ignoring this isn't Earth's Mightiest Heroes..it really looked like Graviton ripped up a chunk of city, not the entire city.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1kXuHhNucX4 (think this is canon to Avengers Assemble as well) and again, in this clip he effortlessly lifts a city and was described as having the power of a black hole. He used it all on Hulk to no avail.
The only question is why Graviton didn't just send Hulk into space. He can sure fight against gravity weighing him down, but no gravity at all? Wouldn't of been a damn thing Hulk could of done.
If you also look at that scene, Thor supported the falling City. Overall, the Avengers are far more powerful and they couldn't do a thing to Thanos. I'll be waiting for those speed showings and strength showings proving they could harm him.Especially when two stronger characters couldn't.
Thor did not support a city. He managed to very very partially slow the decent of the chunk of city Graviton ripped up, and was smushed by the land mass. Hell if you watch the clip you won't even be able to detect any noticeable slow down of the land mass by Thor. Though when it hits the water the waves, etc. it produces aren't as big as they should of been..implying Thor did somewhat slow it down..just not in any way visible to the naked eye.
Originally posted by carver9
He's not on their level though. Remember when Luthor hacked the Watch tower and shot the beam of energy down to the city (that destroyed the building). The shockwaves from that attack took him out. Hulk and Thor withstood much more than that.
Just to be clear, this was a focused beam of energy. So the fact it merely destroyed a building doesn't mean it's nothing but a mere building buster. Also, the shockwave did KO him. Thing is, this gun was so potent? Shockwaves or whatever were felt all the way in Japan(this is said in the episode, if not Japan it was another country). So, not exactly a terrible showing for Supes. It doesn't mean the JLU team wins, but it was a nice feat.
Also if you want to use statements it was said the beam has the punch of a small nuke.
Originally posted by danielgamer
Avengers and Thanos for the win, unless we are using All STAR Superman.
Why specify All Star Supes? Normal post crisis Superman could take this fight just fine.
Originally posted by carver9
City buster? Where did you get that from? Also, the attack didn't hit him, the shockwaves did. Also, this isn't about Hulk vs Superman, this is Thanos vs the JLU and Thanos stomps this since he handled a more powerful team.
And he directly stopped the laser using his body. Where the **** was shockwaves hitting him?