Originally posted by Philosophía
Superman has already used counter-frequency on multiversal power Final Crisis Darkseid and Hal has beaten Krona wielding the entities in one-shot.They can, and have, shot out of their weight class, by far.
So you feel if their adversaries fought to their best they'd still perform at that level
Originally posted by Sin I AM
So you feel if their adversaries fought to their best they'd still perform at that level
It could have been that the opposition wasn't as great as they were supposed to be, or that it was another large case of PIS. I recall Odin casually slapping the shit out of the Surfer, the end. If they fight to the best of their abilities they would wind up in the class that they were stated to be in, in the first place. Well as long as their opponents didn't object to giving it their all as well.
Originally posted by Stoic
It could have been that the opposition wasn't as great as they were supposed to be, or that it was another large case of PIS. I recall Odin casually slapping the shit out of the Surfer, the end. If they fight to the best of their abilities they would wind up in the class that they were stated to be in, in the first place. Well as long as their opponents didn't object to giving it their all as well.
This. If say Surfer used all of his abilities and Thanos did the same they would still be in the same class
Originally posted by Sin I AM
This. If say Surfer used all of his abilities and Thanos did the same they would still be in the same class
No because semi off panel, Thanos was able to take Tyrant's measure. He took major damage from Odin in a prolonged battle, while the Surfer could have been one shot smacked out by either. Thanos is above the High Herald tier. This has been proven on several different occasions.
Originally posted by Stoic
No because semi off panel, Thanos was able to take Tyrant's measure. He took major damage from Odin in a prolonged battle, while the Surfer could have been one shot smacked out by either. Thanos is above the High Herald tier. This has been proven on several different occasions.
U misunderstood. Surfer would still be hh and Thanos trans
Originally posted by maxivitopoweThat's what I was thinking...
I thought that was what you meant. That if they both went all out there would still be the same difference between them
Originally posted by Mindship
Wait a sec. If CIS/PIS is off for everyone, then would it be all that different from CIS/PIS on for everyone, just at a higher level?
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yes that's what im thinking yet some people feel surfer would get the best of thanos due to power versatility
He wouldn't because Thanos is nearly as vesatile, if not just as versatile as the Surfer. Surfer flies, Thanos uses magic. Thanos can ground the Surfer, the Surfer can't do anything about it.. etc. There are characters out there that have been labeled Trans but may not even be HH due to poor durability making them glass cannons. Doctor Strange, and those like him come to mind very often.