Who are the toughest force users?

Originally posted by ILS
Savage actually doesn't have better striking strength feats than Maul.

How do you figure that? Opress sent Count frigging Dooku flying once with a swing.

He's also disarmed Kenobi and Ventress within a few strikes in "Revenge."

Originally posted by Marco1907

And Maul doesn't ? He get shot to his hand when the time he was fighting against Pre Vizsla, took several grenades explosion shock, and he still continue to fight.

Doesn't compare to being shot head on by Destroyer and Battle Droids.

Savage is like frankenstein (someone used exactly this term, but I don't remember who) and ragdolled Anakin & Obi-Wan at the same time, he has also broken a chain handcuff with ease, Savage is physically stronger than even Maul, but I still say that Maul has better pain tolerance than Savage.

I agree Maul had better pain tolerance.

How do you figure that? Opress sent Count frigging Dooku flying once with a swing.

He's also disarmed Kenobi and Ventress within a few strikes in "Revenge."

I'd say Maul can cause more damage with his strikes, unarmed anyway, due to his martial arts skill. But in terms of hurling people/objects around Savage is stronger due to his sheer size.

Jaina Solo in Apocalypse

Plagueis?

Maul still has H2H combat and speed advantage though, that is why he can even beat Savage without lightsaber.

This is from maul: lockdown ;

Maul tears open three meter long Wampa's chest

Summoning whatever remained of his strength, Maul fired himself at the beast. Hooking his hands into claws, he plunged them through its fur, ripping into the soft tissue of its torso. The wampa screeched and wailed. Maul barely heard it. Shoving his hands deeper, he sank both arms in up to the elbow, beneath its rib cage and into its thoracic cavity, groping until he found what he was looking for—the slick, pulsating mass of its heart.

And he was heavily wounded when he did this, another pain tolerance feat.

Originally posted by ILS
I suppose that's fair enough with the Dooku showing, although with Kenobi he had the element of surprise, and when he disarmed Kenobi it was because Kenobi was trying to watch his back for Maul. With Ventress, it's fair enough but the environment was pretty cramped, and she only had one blade opposed to her usual pair.

Not using any of that to claim Opress can take out any of those 3 in a fair one vs one with all sides prepped. (Although I do think he can take Ventress).

Just using it to show the trouble his tremendous strength alone has given to so many powerful opponents. Those "strength/striking" feats are well above Maul's.

Originally posted by ILS
I'd say Maul can cause more damage with his strikes, unarmed anyway, due to his martial arts skill.

I'm not even sure of that. Even before the Nightsister amp, Opress was punching holes in stone. Then the nightsister magic increased his strength multiple times.

Maul can probably defeat Savage in unarmed combat due to his martial prowess, but he's not going to have strikes as powerful as Savage's even unarmed.