What's so fictional about The Bible?

Originally posted by red g jacks
a creator can exist and the bible can still be fiction

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Originally posted by Jynocidus
Evolution is more like the product of denial with the purpose to satisfy materialistic persons. Men didn't even create the organisms they research to come up with that nonsense, therefore evolution isn't worthy of being classified with creation.

Evolution theory seems plausible because there is thought and work behind it.

Creation consist of nothing more than belief without proof. ie "The Universe exist, therefore a creator had to have created it."

They're also not really opposed. One can both have creation and evolution theory.

Originally posted by Robtard
They're also not really opposed. One can both have creation and evolution theory.

Which is something most christian religions preach anyways.

Originally posted by Jynocidus
You want a scan of The Creator?

Although I don't have the capability to provide that, no other mortal does either. At the same time, it says that it's not time to see him yet in this supposedly fictional book.

Wow, a Creator that literally can't be mocked in any way. Is that a way to accept him? Do you think people would use photoshop on his images to disgrace someone that powerful if I posted for access?

Originally posted by Robtard
Evolution theory seems plausible because there is thought and work behind it.

Creation consist of nothing more than belief without proof. ie "The Universe exist, therefore a creator had to have created it."

They're also not really opposed. One can both have creation and evolution theory.

Thought and work? More thought and work than engineering light, matter, stars, and galaxies? And other cool stuff?

I disagree. I haven't seen a human capable of creation to this day, they can't even create other humans.

According to this fictional book...men did not physiologically evolve...or...mutate...from animals. Although taking the book as fictional in worst case scenario, you could say a creator was responsible for this...evolution. Then you'd have to make your own story to support it, using things already of existence.

Originally posted by Digi
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nah. Not worth it. You're literally espousing young earth creationism, yes? That's too steep a hill for me to climb right now. Insofar as this thread goes, though, I cosign Neme and Shakya's comments so far.

I would just like to know what people feel is fictional about the bible, that's all. Any doubts that are like....seriously powerful enough to deny a Creator, from inside of creation.

Originally posted by Jynocidus
Although I don't have the capability to provide that, no other mortal does either. At the same time, it says that it's not time to see him yet in this supposedly fictional book.

Wow, a Creator that literally can't be mocked in any way. Is that a way to accept him? Do you think people would use photoshop on his images to disgrace someone that powerful if I posted for access?

Why would a God care about being mocked or not? I would think a God that created everything would be above having his feeling hurt, or getting mad.

Originally posted by Jynocidus
Although I don't have the capability to provide that, no other mortal does either.

Conclusion: God probably doesn't exist. 👆

Originally posted by Jynocidus
I would just like to know what people feel is fictional about the bible, that's all. Any doubts that are like....seriously powerful enough to deny a Creator, from inside of creation.

And we have told you.

I don't see a creation in the sense of something from nothing. If there is no creation, then how can there be a creator?

Originally posted by Jynocidus
Thought and work? More thought and work than engineering light, matter, stars, and galaxies? And other cool stuff?

I disagree. I haven't seen a human capable of creation to this day, they can't even create other humans.

According to this fictional book...men did not physiologically evolve...or...mutate...from animals. Although taking the book as fictional in worst case scenario, you could say a creator was responsible for this...evolution. Then you'd have to make your own story to support it, using things already of existence.

Well, we know humans have worked on Evolution theory. Which was the point.

Odd. Very odd statement.

Not sure what you're going on about. But Evolution theory and Creation can exist together, you don't have to be: "it has to be one or the other". Which was my point.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I accept your concession.

Conclusion: God probably doesn't exist. 👆

I never conceded to anything.

Why are you so unsure? Probably...yes or no?

Originally posted by Jynocidus
I never conceded to anything.

Why are you so unsure? Probably...yes or no?

Because I'm not an idiot and as such don't make empirical statements on whether or not something that has yet to be proven or disproven exists or not.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
And we have told you.

I don't see a creation in the sense of something from nothing. If there is no creation, then how can there be a creator?

What you are asking makes no sense. How can there be no creation? To have existence without creation sounds like a very complicated fantasy.

Originally posted by NemeBro
No, you have.

Because I'm not an idiot and as such don't make empirical statements on whether or not something that has yet to be proven or disproven exists or not.

You're an idiot if you can't see that you're a creation... 👆

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
First you have to have a creation. Is the Big Bang the creation? Scientists have stated that the Big Bang doesn't need a creator. I read the book The Grand Design by Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow, and they cover the point about the Big Bang does not needing a creator. So, what other creation would need a creator? Evolution?

Originally posted by Jynocidus
What you are asking makes no sense. How can there be no creation? To have existence without creation sounds like a very complicated fantasy.

Looking around us only proves that there is something that exists. It doesn't prove that it had a creation. The energy that makes up all of the universe cannot be created of destroyed only changed.

Please provide proof of a creation.

Originally posted by Jynocidus
You're an idiot if you can't see that you're a creation... 👆

It's okay, most people who have their first debate with me are like that the first time. 🙂

This might help. 👆

Originally posted by Shabazz916
creation does not a creator... so all of a sudden something just exploded for no reason ???

Are you talking about the Big Bang? It is debatable rather or not the Big Bang was a creation. It could have just been a change. I think that it was more likely a change.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Are you talking about the Big Bang? It is debatable rather or not the Big Bang was a creation. It could have just been a change. I think that it was more likely a change.