#16 wins... And decisively so.
My opinion based on what we were shown:
#16~Imperfect Cell>>#17~Kamiccolo>#18~/<Meta-Cooler>>n00b SSJ Goku. However, n00b SSJ Goku+n00b SSJ Vegeta>Meta-Cooler(marginally.)
ie. Meta-Cooler's power would fall somewhere between #17's and #18's, imo. A bit more powerful than #18, but a bit less powerful than #17.
Originally posted by carver9I think Cooler is definitely > #18, but still slightly < #17. Here's why...
I would say 18 is stronger than Meta Cooler.
In the manga, n00b SSJ Vegeta actually put up a great fight against #18 before she ultimately beat him. In fact, #18's only real advantage is that her PL was perpetual and never decreased, while Vegeta's obviously did. When Vegeta was 'fresh', however, they were near-equals(#17, Trunks, and Piccolo noted such, iirc.) That being said, had a healthy Goku been fighting alongside Vegeta, I think they would have beaten her decisively.
Other side of the coin, n00b SSJ Goku(who was ~ n00b SSJ Vegeta) wasn't much competition at all against Meta-Cooler by himself. Granted, Goku got in a few good blows, but he was otherwise dominated. That's why it took both n00b SSJ Goku AND n00b SSJ Vegeta to defeat Cooler--and even then, they barely managed to do so.
I'd still have #17 > Cooler, though, because he was ~ Kamiccolo, who was >>> n00b SSJ Goku/Vegeta... And #16, of course, was FAR beyond even #17.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime#16 would probably do the same thing Goku/Vegeta did: maim Cooler with a blast, watch him regenerate, come to the realization that the only way to perma-win is by completely destroying his body, then proceed to atomize him.
Just to play devil's advocate, is the Big Gete Star hax a factor here? (i.e. Keeps making Meta-Cooler stronger after the BGS regenerates him from an injury/being maimed)Or is that kind of omitted since it could lead to a no limit fallacy?
Originally posted by Galan007
#16 would probably do the same thing Goku/Vegeta did: maim Cooler with a blast, watch him regenerate, come to the realization that the only way to perma-win is by completely destroying his body, then proceed to atomize him.
Originally posted by NemeBro
If the individual Meta Coolers were so strong, why was a tired Goku and Vegeta able to destroy the Big Gete Star by powering up?
Originally posted by naurtoisbeast
cooler will win here
PFFT, nada bro.
Android 16 is slightly stronger than Imperfect Cell, who was VASTLY stronger than #17 and Kamicollo. Even n00b SSJ Goku was able to fight on par with him, and stomp him with n00b SSJ Vegeta tagging along. A simple power scale would go like this:
#16 ~ Imperfect Cell >> # 17 ~ Kamicollo >>> Meta Cooler > SSJ1 Goku ~ SSJ1 Vegeta.
Also, in regards to the no-limit's fallacy, usually in threads with Meta Cooler, the BGS is either non-existent or limited to the strength we saw it withstand. Meaning that you can still just blow up up if you're n00b SSJ1 Goku level+. Even Piccolo was doing damage to it. Anyone above Goku at that point should be able to just nuke it, and take Cooler out completely.
ALSO, in regards to the no-limit's fallacy, we give the Androids infinite energy, but NOT infinite capacity to release it, and NOT infinite strength, durability, etc. Basically, it's the same principle as if you had a dixie cup with infinite water in it, it would still take years to fill up a lake. The androids have infinite energy in the catalyst they use it in, which is only star level. So basically, they can continuously shoot a planet buster, and probably never have to stop shooting it, but that's besides the point.
Either way, that's not much of a factor in a fight with someone stronger than them, which Cooler is not.