Faith Healing

Started by Shakyamunison2 pages
Originally posted by The Renegade
I think we've exhausted our positions on this and this pretty much sums up our conversation.

Interesting tactic. 😛

Re: Faith Healing

In your opinion is "Faith Healing" real and legitimate, or a hoax?

legit, but more often employed in hoaxes.

Can a person really be healed by Faith, Grace, Prayer, and the 'laying of hands' alone?

on a case by case basis, yes. I dont believe its something you'll see on cable every week.

Can a congregation, regardless of Religion, have healing bestowed on a person by their God with collective prayer?

see previous answer.

Follow up question:

If you are of the opinion that you believe, or perhaps know, that "Faith Healing" is real, would you yourself go to a Faith Healing Hospital (if they existed) or currently employ only Faith Healers in lieu of a Medical Hospital which uses medicine and surgery for your personal healthcare?

no.
I believe god gave us the knowledge to cure ourselves, and doubt i'd rate divine intervention in any case.

Have you prayed away an illness or serious injury (broken or sprained limb, for example)?

no.

I wouldn't call it "faith" healing. Those who use religion as basis - it's just another ritual.

My grand grand grand mother was able to heal. In one case a neighbor had a sick cow dying and unable to stand up. She would approach the cow, lay hand on her and whisper something. The cow stood up after that and got better.

Effect on human can be explained by placebo effect. Wondering how it can be explained on animals.

Originally posted by Arhael
I wouldn't call it "faith" healing. Those who use religion as basis - it's just another ritual.

My grand grand grand mother was able to heal. In one case a neighbor had a sick cow dying and unable to stand up. She would approach the cow, lay hand on her and whisper something. The cow stood up after that and got better.

Effect on human can be explained by placebo effect. Wondering how it can be explained on animals.

I think the placebo effect would work on other animals. After all, humans are animals.

Originally posted by Arhael
My grand grand grand mother was able to heal. In one case a neighbor had a sick cow dying and unable to stand up. She would approach the cow, lay hand on her and whisper something. The cow stood up after that and got better.

Maybe it had gas pains as cows create ultra massive amounts of intestinal gases during their digestion processes and when your great great great grandmother placed her hand on the cow it hit a pressure point and the cow passed gas (aka farted), thereby "curing" it of it's debilitating pain. Possible?

Anecdotes are problematic.

Originally posted by Mindship
Anecdotes are problematic.

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Just to be sure ... you do realize you're in a thread where the original poster of the thread is ASKING people for anecdotes?

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Simple topic:

In your opinion is "Faith Healing" real and legitimate, or a hoax ...?

Have YOU prayed away an illness or serious injury (broken or sprained limb, for example)?

I like a good anecdote.

I think faith healing is/can be real. But there are many hoaxes and the simple fact of a miraclous healing existing poses several problems even for the person who is healed. So from a pragmatic mindset, it's better to believe faith healing isn't real even when it (likely) is.

That sort of answers the rest of the questions Delph raised afterwards. It's incredibly toxic to rely in something such as faith healing as a method. The Catholic church believes that miracle healings come from God only when they increase the devotion of those healed and the people around them, faith is the result of the miracle, not the cause. Playing with people's faith is dangerous enough as it is, it will always lead to hoaxes and false pretenses every single time.

Miraclous healings that are unexplainable and unrelated with faith are more interesting, but probably they don't belong in the religion discussion forums.

Interesting observations. 👆

can faith heal you ... yes... i true believer will be healed... but it does not everybody who believes will be healed