Originally posted by Naija boy
If a poster tries to demonstrate Doomsday's strength by showing him killing Superman, and then gets asked to justify why killing Doomsday is impressive and attempts to do so by referencing how he took hits from Superman's tremendous strength.....The reasoning is fallacious and the argument is unsound.
So that must make almost every character to character comparison unsound across the internet. From Silver Surfer vs Morg to Thor vs Durok. You must be very frustrated not being able to enjoy character debates on message boards. I suggest you brush up on storytelling devices and the concept of dramatic conflict before you go sprouting about circular reasoning and other logical fallacies you've memorized the definitions of over the years in a rather pedantic attempt to make your VERY SIMPLE arguments look more impressive than they are.
Originally posted by Naija boy
You are attempting to defend your own circular reasoning by referencing another case of circular reasoning.....my goodness 😱.
A true circular argument would look something like this Naija Boy
Hulk is the strongest one there is because it was stated.
The strongest one there is the Hulk because it was stated.
This argument is without EVIDENCE that PROVES that conclusion.
Superman vs Doomsday would NOT be a circular argument.
We know the durability of Superman and have many feats to see how incredible it is. Doomsday's strength overcoming that durability is the EVIDENCE that we need to prove the statement that Doomsday has PHENOMENAL strength.
Doomsday in addition to beating up Superman has slapped around other characters just as easily, but even if we didn't have those examples he know how Superman relates to other top tiers and villains within the DC Universe, and the fact he died trying to overcome Doomsday's durability would be the EVIDENCE we need to make a conclusion that Doomsday has PHENOMENAL durability as well just off him fighting and killing Superman.
It would also be EVIDENCE of Superman's great Strength in killing Doomsday, since we have many feats to judge Superman's strength and in that story he had never had to work that hard before against a being strong enough to kill the greatest hero in the DC Universe. And this would also count towards Superman's durability which has stood up to everything from black holes to supernovas that he endured such a beating long enough to kill said opponent.
I don't know if you're ignoring this, being purposely obtuse, or just trying to provide misdirection from the argument you put forth but I sincerely want you to know that I find it to be a distraction from actual honest debating.
Originally posted by Naija boy
lol, anyhow, this is my last post in response to this. Ive had my fill of this horribly tedious discussion where the rules of logic get wantonly disregarded and shouts of "Wikipedia" are seen as a valid rebuttals. I have no desire to spend my time spoon feeding kids the basic tenets of critical thinking. Your illiteracy is your problem not mine/Peace. 🙂
I wish you stuck to the merits of defending the argument you put forth. It's a shame that this is your last words on the topic but since you don't want to even think of reexamining your position or even entertain the stance that Prime can legitimately be stronger I guess I should not be surprised.
Originally posted by Board Walker
Who is actually in the House of El? Because I see many people claiming to be a part of it, but then I see them post insane things regarding the House of El.
Here are the answers you seek.