Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, probably so.Also, imagine if Cell would've used Tri-Beam instead of Kamehameha. Gohan would've been phucked.
Yeah, no kidding. That would probably contend with attacks from Super Vegetto and Bills. However, if Goku in SSJG or Bills or someone could learn it, that would be the strongest.
You know, I've always wondered why Cell didn't use more of his techniques. He knew all the techniques of all the Z-fighters, yet he didn't use Kaioken, Spirit bomb, Tri-beam(when it counted), or even Great ape, which it was inferred he should be capable of. That would also be sweet, but a bit too OP Tbh.
Kaioken we can only assume Cell didn't use for the same reason Goku stopped using it after reaching super saiyan; the energy drain taking its toll on the user, which may explain why Goku only used Kaioken as a super saiyan against Pikkon (even though it was only filler), since being dead gives one's body more stamina than being alive, as SSJ3 proved. Still would've been cool to see Cell use against Gohan though, even though it would've been random and out of nowhere compared to his other techniques.
Although he had the capability to use it, I guess Cell figured the Spirit Bomb would've been no good for him with the amount of time it takes to create one and since he himself is evil, it could be used against him (unlike someone whose good/pure of heart) by being bounced back at him like Gohan did to Vegeta with a smaller SB in the Saiyan saga. Plus who would willingly give their energy to Cell for him to create a bigger bomb? 😛
But yeah, him never using Tri-beam when it counted was a bit too convenient. 😬
Originally posted by SSJGGogetaI'll tell you why Cell never used Oozaru(assuming he was even capable of such): because it would have likely made him the most powerful baddie in Z by a large margin(not factoring in BoG.)
Yeah, no kidding. That would probably contend with attacks from Super Vegetto and Bills. However, if Goku in SSJG or Bills or someone could learn it, that would be the strongest.You know, I've always wondered why Cell didn't use more of his techniques. He knew all the techniques of all the Z-fighters, yet he didn't use Kaioken, Spirit bomb, Tri-beam(when it counted), or even Great ape, which it was inferred he should be capable of. That would also be sweet, but a bit too OP Tbh.
Had SPC, for example, transformed into an Oozaru, it would have essentially made him 100x> SSJ2 Gohan... Which, speaking conservatively, would still make him upwards of 90x> SSJ3 Goku--and I, for one, don't even think the difference between Buuhan(the most powerful baddie in Z, by far) and SSJ3 Goku was nearly that vast. Remember, this was an era in which a 'mere' 2x difference in power was completely insurmountable *see SSJ2 Gohan's battle with Perfect Cell*
ie. This theoretical Oozaru-SPC>>Buuhan>>>>>everyone else up to the Buu-saga(sans Vegito, of course.) Imo.
100x?
I don't even think he could turn into an Oozaru without a Saiyan tail. Him having the ability in his DNA amounts to every other Saiyan with this trait, which means nothing without that tail to trigger things.
As for the TriBeam.. going off memory, besides his first demonstration of the KMHMA it, wasn't each usage going along with the threat of destroying the planet? TriBeam might be an incredibly damaging technique, but its AOE is quite low for a ki blast.
Edit: Scratch that. I don't believe he had Tien's cells in the manga.
Originally posted by BloodRainA 100x boost was the Oozaru multiplier.
100x?I don't even think he could turn into an Oozaru without a Saiyan tail. Him having the ability in his DNA amounts to every other Saiyan with this trait, which means nothing without that tail to trigger things.
Yeah, I don't think he could have transformed into an Ape, either. Just running with SSJGGogeta's speculation, because it's a fun concept to ponder. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007If 100x was the Oozaru multiplier then Vegeta would be stronger than second form Freeza using it, lol.
A 100x boost was the Oozaru multiplier.Yeah, I don't think he could have transformed into an Ape, either. Just running with SSJGGogeta's speculation, because it's a fun concept to ponder. 🙂
Oh yeah, didn't comment on the Oozaru Cell thing earlier because I didn't know what to make of it.. Like how would that work even if he had the capability? Would he turn into some giant green ape with his stinger tail instead of a monkey tail along with the grasshopper-like wings and such, or would he become some giant bug sort of thing like Hirudegarn?
It's hard and weird trying to picture that shit.
Originally posted by Galan007
A 100x boost was the Oozaru multiplier.Yeah, I don't think he could have transformed into an Ape, either. Just running with SSJGGogeta's speculation, because it's a fun concept to ponder. 🙂
Yeah, just got back, and saw everyone already corrected you on this, so I don't have to mention that it IS a ten times multiplier though. However, with that, stacked onto Kaioken, Cell would be 200X stronger than Gohan, at the most, and 20X at the least, going from Kaioken 2X to 20X. The 20X boost would make him marginally stronger than most Buu saga characters, and put him at least on par with Super Buu, or maybe Buutenks. The 200X boost would make him a match for Super Vegetto, and possibly even superior to him. It does stand to reason that Toriyama didn't want Cell being way too massively OP, but if that's true, I don't see why he would induce so much PIS, instead of just making a weaker villain, lol.
I don't think it's that difficult to assume he could. Honestly, I don't see why he couldn't considering other Saiyan's can. It was stated by him that he got a zenkai boost, so he's obviously genetically comparable to Saiyan's at least. Imo, it's not that much of a stretch to think he could absorb blutz waves through his stinger, or maybe just his nucleus on the top of his head. I just think that since he can use so many other Saiyan abilities, he would be able to go great ape as well.
Originally posted by Damborgson
He doesn't have a tail, but other than that, I guess it'd be possible.
I remember them calling his stinger a tail multiple times.