Strength Vs Invulnerability

Started by riv66724 pages

All kidding aside though.
Just spent some time researching Hulk's HF.

It was indeed Wolvie's opinion during the fight as to the HF. However, it seemed to me it was PAD using him as a mouthpiece. If though, anyone still thinks it was character hyperbole, its hyperbole that's made its way into canon.
I saw a ton of examples of Hulk's HF as source of invulnerability.
So, i'm comfortable with my original opinion.

Originally posted by riv6672
So wait, is the truth that she's not as invulnerable as originally posted or that her strength is on par with her invulnerability?

It varies.

Her durability is certainly greater than her strength, but the difference isn't nearly as big as with brit or diamond lil.

Originally posted by riv6672
Well you're just correcting everyone this morning arent you, HiH? 😂

I was bored after 3 days a non-stop studying

Originally posted by riv6672
All kidding aside though.
Just spent some time researching Hulk's HF.

It was indeed Wolvie's opinion during the fight as to the HF. However, it seemed to me it was PAD using him as a mouthpiece. If though, anyone still thinks it was character hyperbole, its hyperbole that's made its way into canon.
I saw a ton of examples of Hulk's HF as source of invulnerability.
So, i'm comfortable with my original opinion.


Unlike Wolverine, Hulk would be truning into mush if hus durability was not par when being hit by Thor, Hercules, Juggernaut, Gladiator and the like, or when he is punching apart mountain ranges and sort. And many like to point out instances from during the Post Onslaught period where the extra dimensional energies caused Hulk's durability to horribly drop. Agree to
disagree it is then.

A bit off-topic: Weren't you the one saying that Wolverine was nowhere near the top tier in martial arts?

^That logic doesn't apply.

Wolverine's skin and meat doesn't fly off his bones either.

Realistically it would look much, much, much worse when he was hit by Hulk, Namor or anyone with super-strength, but it simply doesn't.

Originally posted by krisblaze
^That logic doesn't apply.

Wolverine's skin and meat doesn't fly off his bones either.

Realistically it would look much, much, much worse when he was hit by Hulk, Namor or anyone with super-strength, but it simply doesn't.


Well, iirc, some of Wolverine's organs were liquified when punched by Namor.
Would you give healing factor as reason for Grey Hulk being able to laugh of She-Thing's punnches when weakened?

Brit is completely invulnerable, but has zero super strength. But at least he's a grown man, with extensive military training. Butterball is a fat whiney adolescent, with fat whiney adolescent level strength.

Originally posted by krisblaze
It varies.

Her durability is certainly greater than her strength, but the difference isn't nearly as big as with brit or diamond lil.


Ah, okay. Thanks for that, Kris.

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
I was bored after 3 days a non-stop studying

I hear that.

Also, not saying there's a discrepancy in Hulk's strength/HF/invulnerability. Dont think i did.
They're all tied together and increase exponentially.

Came across this old topic now. Even under PAD, during a time when his durability was explicitly weakened so that even missiles hurt him and was cut by normal blades, he crushed Mortal Hercules, recovered from orbital fall as fast as Gladiator did (though to be fair hulk had just thunderclapped him in the face), and had anti-aircraft artillery bounce off him. Or during WWH where they removed his HF and did basically nothing without adamantium. If it was simply HF all those incidents would have left gaping holes in him

Wonder Woman maybe.

Paladin is a decent choice imo. He has legit superhuman strength but durability is only enhanced human, i.e., can't take it as much as he can dish out

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Came across this old topic now. Even under PAD, during a time when his durability was explicitly weakened so that even missiles hurt him and was cut by normal blades, he crushed Mortal Hercules, recovered from orbital fall as fast as Gladiator did (though to be fair hulk had just thunderclapped him in the face), and had anti-aircraft artillery bounce off him. Or during WWH where they removed his HF and did basically nothing without adamantium. If it was simply HF all those incidents would have left gaping holes in him

Thanks for the bump. 👆

Originally posted by tsilamini
well, that brings up the question, is regeneration the same as invulnerability?

I would say no. The difference between a regenerator and someone who is invulnerable is if I shoot a regenerator with a gun the bullet will pierce his flesh, damage will be inflicted, but it will heal. Shooting at someone who is invulnerable..the bullet just bounces off, no healing is required because no damage has actually been done.

Sometimes characters have both powers, but no they aren't really the same. There could be someone who regenerates so quickly it seems like no harm is being done at all.

For instance Clark from Smallville has both. Bullets bounce off him, knives shatter on his skin, etc. If you, however, do find a force powerful enough to hurt him..he can regenerate. He has been impaled through the chest and healed.

Ultron, Juggernaut

someone who is invulnerable is if I shoot a regenerator with a gun the bullet will pierce his flesh, damage will be inflicted, but it will heal. Shooting at someone who is invulnerable..the bullet just bounces off, no healing is required because no damage has actually been done.

Hulk's HF is so powerful it looks like thats exactly whats happening.

Loser from Supermen of America.

I can think of a guy from starbrand#10,Gladiator(not the one with the mowhawk)this guys name is randy kellog and he can bench a truck,that is nothing compaired to his durability.He started gaining weight and density until he could withstand getting hit with two 5 kilo ton nukes from the Russians.Starbrand stopped him by throwing him through outer space,and he is not effected by being in a vacuum.he may rival Juggs durability.

Originally posted by riv6672
Hulk's HF is so powerful it looks like thats exactly whats happening.

But I think his durability also increases as well with his anger. I don't think it's all his healing.

Originally posted by riv6672
Who has the biggest gaps in how strong they are as opposed to how invulnerable? Invulnerable might NOT be the right word, but i think you guys'll get what i mean...
Either really strong with low invulnerability, OR the other way around.
Brit. Unquestionably.

Yeah Brit is a pretty good choice actually.