Asgardian Destroyer vs Juggernaut (Movie versions)

Originally posted by KingD19
That fact would be relevant if not for the other fact that no Asgardian has been shot directly before. Sif had her shield and her armor. Loki had armor. They didn't get shot in their flesh. Thor ran from Vulcan bullets. Asgardian Armor is bulletproof to a point. Asgardians as far as we know are not.

I don't see what the exploding arrow has to do with being bulletproof, but people survive explosions like jumping on grenades or landmines or IED's far more than you'd think. But the guy that survived that explosion more than likely wouldn't survive having half an M4 clip emptied into his chest.

Thor took one full strength blast to the chest plate. Another blast when Tony was boosted to 400%, and then the one where he got "shot in the face" seemed to be a much weaker beam probably due to Thor crushing the shit out of the gauntlet. It was more like a flare than anything. But I don't see what that has to do with anything as Thor is the most powerful Asgardian save Odin. It's clear he's levels above everyone else in every way.

You are straw-manning here. There is far more evidence of Asgardians tanking earthly artillery unscathed than there is of them getting hurt by them. You have zero proof of them being hurt by bullets whereas they have survived bullets before. You claim it's their armor but you have no proof that ONLY the armor was hit. IE, shotgun round made a clang against Sif's armor but you have no proof that she wasn't hit elsewhere. Rapid fire made a clang against Loki's chest but it would be dumb to think that out of all of those shots none hit him in other parts without armor.

A grenade will tear up a person regardless of whether he survives or not. To claim that Loki can survive an exploding arrow to the face without a scratch yet be vulnerable to gunshot is baseless.

And if you keep going this direction, then we can also simply say that Juggernaut is also susceptible to gunfire because, you know, he has never shown he can tank gunshots.

We never actually see any Asgardians get hit elsewhere than the armor though. So you can't claim there's evidence of them being unscathed when they all wear bulletproof armor and never actually are shown getting shot in their flesh.

You're assuming they got hit somewhere else, but going by what was shown on screen, they were always hit directly on an armored surface.

You say I have no proof only the armor was hit. But I actually do. On screen we only see the armor get hit. Proof right there. You have no proof that they got hit anywhere else. If you do, I'll gladly look at it.

And again, there's a chance the guy was using slugs. Even if he wasn't, at that distance there's literally no room for bullet spread. The barrel of that shotgun was inches away from Sif when he fired. Have you ever fired a shotgun at something up close? I have. It just looks like a huge caliber bullet instead of the peppering you get from further distances.

I see some are using deleted scenes.

For Juggs, since not many feats and scenes we should use all we have access too.

In one of the deleted scene from X3, Storm KO juggernaut with lightning.

That energy beam of the destroyer would easily do the same thing.

In that same scene he instantly healed from getting Wolverine'd. And it actually makes no sense that the electricity ko'd Cain, but not Logan who has been knocked out by far less. Also, last time I checked, stone is a horrible conductor for electricity.

Originally posted by KingD19
In that same scene he instantly healed from getting Wolverine'd. And it actually makes no sense that the electricity ko'd Cain, but not Logan who has been knocked out by far less. Also, last time I checked, stone is a horrible conductor for electricity.

Ok so how does the fight go down in you eyes.

Destroyer is easily on par with him in strength.

He has him on ranged attack.

Juggs will charge? Lets say he somehow shruggs off that beam, and then gets in close, how does he put destroyer down?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Ok so how does the fight go down in you eyes.

Destroyer is easily on par with him in strength.

He has him on ranged attack.

Juggs will charge? Lets say he somehow shruggs off that beam, and then gets in close, how does he put destroyer down?

Read back. I never said Juggernaut would win. I said he couldn't put down the Destroyer due to it being able to heal itself. And Destroyer couldn't put him down due to his durability/healing.

I called stalemate, then told Silent I conceded that Cain would need food/water/sleep, etc.. and would eventually get worn down if it went that long since he wasn't magic and probably wasn't as powerful as his Ultimate version which while still a mutant, was basically the same.

Originally posted by KingD19
Read back. I never said Juggernaut would win. I said he couldn't put down the Destroyer due to it being able to heal itself. And Destroyer couldn't put him down due to his durability/healing.

I called stalemate, then told Silent I conceded that Cain would need food/water/sleep, etc.. and would eventually get worn down if it went that long since he wasn't magic and probably wasn't as powerful as his Ultimate version which while still a mutant, was basically the same.

All good, stupid thread anyways. Both have retard showings 😆

It's pretty unfair considering the only way shown to destroy the Destroyer is to make a feedback loop into his face hole when he shots his face laser.

And Cain has no way to do that really.

Originally posted by KingD19
It's pretty unfair considering the only way shown to destroy the Destroyer is to make a feedback loop into his face hole when he shots his face laser.

And Cain has no way to do that really.

I agree, its pretty much spite, you made a good argument for jug though, its commendable.