Originally posted by Skybreaker
OK, I get it, you're a troll. I'm not even saying that as an insult; good job at acting just smart enough that I didn't really get it at first.
Watch the video noob. And shut the **** up.
Even Bariss Offee gave a good fight to him. Jeeses.... Emokin fans needs to be stop.
Originally posted by Marco1907
Watch the video noob. And shut the **** up.
That was early CW, and Ventress never even won that.
Originally posted by Marco1907
Even Bariss Offee gave a good fight to him. Jeeses.... Emokin fans needs to be stop.
That was Barriss who turned to the Dark Side. We have no idea how powerful she was. And Anakin still won.
Oh and in that same episode Anakin force chokes Ventress, and she's not able to break free from his grip.
Originally posted by Marco1907
And get ass kicked by Obi-Wan. Turned into slow robot man.
Because Anakin's decision to try to summersault over a soresu master on an elevated surface is somehow related to his ability to defeat Ventress now?
Don't pretend that you don't know the circumstances of the duel; mainly, that in addition to Anakin being in a compromised emotional state, Obi Wan knew all of Anakin's moves and deliberately turned the duel into one optimal to his soresu style of combat. Even ignoring the fact that Obi Wan as of RotS is certainly nothing to sneeze at, given that his weaker self shit all over Ventress like she was a joke, Anakin's performance against Obi Wan in no manner suggests he couldn't hand Ventress his ass on a silver platter.
But hey, isn't it so interesting that you cleverly tried to change the subject from Anakin's asskicking of Dooku, you know his "peak" performance, because you obviously couldn't give anything to suggest that Ventress is on that level. All you've done is provide examples of duels from the early TCW that Anakin actually won. Anakin Skywalker bends Ventress over.
So ? Obi-Wan was more hindered than Anakin ; (or at least hindered as him)
Yoda: To fight this Lord Sidious, strong enough, you are not.
Obi-Wan: But Anakin...he is like my brother. I cannot do it.
Yoda: Twisted by the dark side, young Skywalker has become. The boy you trained, gone, he is, consumed by Darth Vader.
Obi-Wan: I do not know where the Emperor has sent him. I don't know where to look.
Yoda: Use your feelings, Obi-Wan, and find him, you will.
Obi-Wan Kenobi: It's over, Anakin! I have the high ground!
Anakin Skywalker: You underestimate my power!
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Don't try it.
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Originally posted by SkybreakerBut hey, isn't it so interesting that you cleverly tried to change the subject from Anakin's asskicking of Dooku, you know his "[b]peak
" performance, because you obviously couldn't give anything to suggest that Ventress is on that level. All you've done is provide examples of duels from the early TCW that Anakin actually won. Anakin Skywalker bends Ventress over. [/B]
I already told you, Anakin used his Djem So advantage against Dooku's makashi ;
His own elegant Makashi simply did not generate the kinetic power to meet Djem So head-to-head.Source : Revenge Of The Sith Novelization
Originally posted by Marco1907I already told you, Anakin used his Djem So advantage against Dooku's makashi ;
Where was that advantage throughout TCW?
Originally posted by Nephthys
Personally I think Marco has a point. Anakin is overhyped. While is is above most of his opponents like Savage, Ventress etc, it's not by that large a margin.
I would probably be inclined to agree with this, IF Anakin didn't do so consistently well against Count Dooku.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Personally I think Marco has a point. Anakin is overhyped. While is is above most of his opponents like Savage, Ventress etc, it's not by that large a margin.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Of course you do. Now if we switch the words "Anakin Skywalker" for let's say, "Darth Zannah" or "the Hero of Tython" and "Savage, Ventress, etc," with "Sarro Xaj, Bane, etc" or "Angral, Scourge, etc" you wouldn't even entertain the notion of circumstantial victories.
Who said anything about circumstantial victories? I said Anakin was above those two, so I don't see why he needs a circumstantial victory to beat them. And Zannah's victory over Bane and Sarro was circumstantial, obviously. Also I've never suggested that Angral and Scourge didn't approach the Hero at the time she fought them. I'm sure they did.
Originally posted by Aurbere
I don't think getting kicked is a sign of weakness to physical attacks or kinetic force. This would imply that Vader, Anakin, Obi-Wan, Sidious, and even Darth Maul have a weakness to kinetic force. They've all been kicked, just like Dooku.
Heck Anakin's been kicked by Dooku
Originally posted by Nephthys
Who said anything about circumstantial victories? I said Anakin was above those two, so I don't see why he needs a circumstantial victory to beat them.
And Zannah's victory over Bane and Sarro was circumstantial, obviously. Also I've never suggested that Angral and Scourge didn't approach the Hero at the time she fought them. I'm sure they did.