Darth Krayt vs Darth Maul & Savage Opress

Originally posted by Trocity
So how do we differentiate between his EU showings and how he fared against Talzin in TCW?

Originally posted by Trocity
On YOUR site, people are claiming ROTS Sidious can 1v3 speedblitz Nihilus, Talzin and Vitiate, the latter 2 of which have prep. So lol.

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Well because he speedblitzed Tiin and Kolar. But somehow they are ignoring Kit Fisto... Isn't that hilarious ?

Thank god Tiin and Kolar don't have any canon feat now. They are just incompetent fools.

Originally posted by ILS
So what has power got to do with speed, exactly? I wasn't disputing their power, I was disputing their ability to perceive Sidious in motion.

I'm honestly done with the "but it didn't happen in the movies" "it's different in New Canon" BS people bring into Legends debates. In the RotS novel, which is canon to some degree, Sidious moves faster than Anakin can see. It's a different depiction of the event from the movie but it's still a depiction nonetheless. And there are other examples of Sidious moving too fast for characters to see, i.e, Fisto, Kolar, Tiin, Windu, Maul...

You're misunderstanding me. I said it's a direct contradiction not because Palpatine wouldn't be able to do speedblitz Anakin, because he would, but in this case, the novelization directly contradicts the movie, and considering that, to my memory, the canon classes still hold value in Legends continuity, Anakin's POV should be invalid in this instance.

For the other point, speed is also determined by power, and while it is possible for vastly inferior characters to be equal in speed with their superior, (Vader/Obi-Wan is an example of that) I find it very hard to believe that such powerful characters would be blitzed by Sidious, especially considering that Talzin wasn't.

Originally posted by ILS
For one, Legends Sidious wasn't the one fighting Talzin in SoD, so there's your differentiation off the bat. Secondly, it's pretty easy. In Legends speed is generally a far more noticeable factor in fights between characters who are several tiers apart. You won't see anyone being speedblitzed in the movies or animations because in those sources Force Users are depicted as low-level superhumans. In Legends Canon, you have Sidious moving faster than hypersonic+ beings can see properly. That's essentially all it comes down to.

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Sidious speedblitzing comes from the movie.

Originally posted by Nephthys
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Sidious speedblitzing comes from the movie.

More like Kolar and Tiin seemingly stood there like idiots, considering that Palpatine stopped after coming close to them and before cutting them down.

Krayt dies a horrible death.

He could take Savage, but add the synergy the brothers are famous for and he's dead (again)

Originally posted by Nargaroth
Revan hurled Vitiate back while the latter was focusing on dominating the former's mind. Maul, on the other hand, pinned Sidious to a wall, and the latter was unable to get free, not to mention that he wasn't distracted. Huge difference. Good thing that this portion of the fight was removed.

And Sidious was focusing on overwhelming them with lightning, I don't see the difference.

Also, as I've argued countless times in the past, it's much easier to defend against a telekinetic grip than it is to break one once it bypasses your defenses.