Originally posted by ares834
Not nearly to Sidious's level. If he did, Kenobi wouldn't have lasted more than a few moments.
Idk, the force certainly sustained Vader through Sidious's lightening when Vader was emotional enough to let it fuel him.
Didn't Vader's anger upon hearing about Padme's death also bring Palpatine to his knees or something similar? That wasn't even focused to effect anyone specific.
It seems like Vader has a range of force power he can use, and his more emotional states seem to tap into the higher, more outlier feats within that range.
haha 🙂
I would argue that, had Anakin not been crippled, he could have been a serious danger to Palpatine in his zone-rage-mode. My reasoning being that both the movie's depiction and the novel's pretty explicit description of Anakin's domination of Dooku is significantly more impressive than Yoda's performance, and really establishes a gulf between Anakin and Dooku greater than the suggest gulf between Palpatine and Dooku. That's my opinion on it.
Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
Where would you rank Anakin compared to Sidious's different versions?Seems like all...0 people were brave enough to make a list like the op seems to have had in mind.
EDIT: I typed this before SKy's post, so it certainly wasn't directed at you.
As of RotS? Don't know. Below Vader, so under 80%.
Originally posted by Skybreaker
haha 🙂I would argue that, had Anakin not been crippled, he could have been a serious danger to Palpatine in his zone-rage-mode. My reasoning being that both the movie's depiction and the novel's pretty explicit description of Anakin's domination of Dooku is significantly more impressive than Yoda's performance, and really establishes a gulf between Anakin and Dooku greater than the suggest gulf between Palpatine and Dooku. That's my opinion on it.
Yoda's fight against Dooku isn't comparable to Anakin's at all per the very same logic you used with Sidious vs the bros.
Regarding actualized power, Anakin as of ROTS was already a great deal more powerful than Dooku. His only problem was his lack of command over his actualized power, but when angry Anakin can harness his actualized power dominate Dooku through brute strength, which wouldn't have nearly the same effect against Yoda, considering Yoda can match Sidious in strength and is a great deal more powerful than Anakin as far as actualized power is concerned and having total control over it. I think that's pretty much self evident in the fact that Yoda is a peer of Sidious who can ragdoll Dooku from a distance of light years.
Luke - 115
Sidious (DE) - 110
Sidious (RotS) - 95
Yoda - 93
Valkorian - 93
Vitiate (ToR) - 85
Vitiate (Revan) - 82
Vader (RotJ) - 80
Revan (SoR)- 80
Galen Marek - 75
Revan Reborn - 72
Nihilus - 70
Exar Kun - 70
Windu - 68
Bane - 65
Dooku - 65
Anakin - 65
Darth Revan - 60
Jedi Revan - 55
Obi Wan - 55
^ this primarily works if we assume that even small differences in Force ability can cause pretty large combative outcomes. Some results like Dooku having some parity with Yoda need to be explained.
My assumptions:
Anakin Skywalker = 200
Valkorion = 170
Vitiate (Rise of the Emperor) = 150
Luke Skywalker = 140
Palpatine (Dark Empire) = 140
The Sith Emperor (SWTOR original) = 130
Revan (Shadow of Revan) = 110
Palpatine (OT) = 100
The Sith Emperor (Revan) = 100
Yoda = 100
Revan (Reborn) = 90
Exar Kun = 85
Darth Revan = 80
Darth Vader (OT) = 80
Red = Same individual - different incarnations.
Blue = Same individual - different incarnations.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
My assumptions:Anakin Skywalker = 200
Valkorion = 170
Vitiate (Rise of the Emperor) = 150
Luke Skywalker = 140
Palpatine (Dark Empire) = 140
The Sith Emperor (SWTOR original) = 130
Revan (Shadow of Revan) = 110
Palpatine (OT) = 100
The Sith Emperor (Revan) = 100
Yoda = 100
Revan (Reborn) = 90
Exar Kun = 85
Darth Revan = 80
Darth Vader (OT) = 80Red = Same individual - different incarnations.
Blue = Same individual - different incarnations.
Lmao.
