On Odin:
Aside from casually wrecking cannon fodder, Odin has implied power. He's more powerful than Thor and most would argue that Thor would have taken down a single-stone-powered Ronin. Which in GoTG, it was implied that single-stone-powered Ronin was above a no-stones Thanos. So logically, Odin > Thanos (sans stones).
Though it's obvious that Thanos with all the stones is going to be the biggest threat the Avengers have faced.
Originally posted by playa1258Completely absurd.
No, you have been ignorant.Thanos is one of my top Marvel characters and I hope they do him justice and not have him lose to some weakling like IM or Black Widow.
You've been spouting this nonsense for years. You seem to be unable to shake this Thanos will be the Iron Man 4. Thanos will be challenging the avengers, the Gotg, and other characters in the two part mega event. Iron Man can barely stand up to Thor with an amp one on one so don't you dare try to act like this will actually go down while discounting the other teams or players involved. You're either retarded, female (period stricken), or both.
Originally posted by RobtardIt was never implied Ronan was above Thanos. Never. He childishly ranted, hung up, to later be defeated by the Gotg. In the same vicinity Thanos didn't even take him seriously but gave him one more chance to prove himself. This was after he punked him face to face. In the end he went rogue and erred in judgment.
On Odin:Aside from casually wrecking cannon fodder, Odin has implied power. He's more powerful than Thor and most would argue that Thor would have taken down a single-stone-powered Ronin. Which in GoTG, it was implied that single-stone-powered Ronin was above a no-stones Thanos. So logically, Odin > Thanos (sans stones).
Though it's obvious that Thanos with all the stones is going to be the biggest threat the Avengers have faced.
Thanos will achieve what Ronan could not and then some with grander ambitions. Thanos has already been stated as the most powerful being in the marvel u. which already included Odin and without the stones.
Odin has never been implied as greater than Thanos in the films or a higher place in marvels cinematic hierarchy.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It was never implied Ronan was above Thanos. Never. He childishly ranted, hung up, to later be defeated by the Gotg. In the same vicinity Thanos didn't even take him seriously but gave him one more chance to prove himself. This was after he punked him face to face. In the end he went rogue and erred in judgment.Thanos will achieve what Ronan could not and then some with grander ambitions. Thanos has already been stated as the most powerful being in the marvel u. which already included Odin and without the stones.
Odin has never been implied as greater than Thanos in the films or a higher place in marvels cinematic hierarchy.
No, it was definitely implied, in fact it was more than implied, Ronan outright said he was going to kill Thanos after he obliterated all life on Xandar.
Why do you take the word of some low-level lackey at face value, but not Ronan who was more powerful, considering he could hold a stone without exploding?
It was a connection. Do you think Ronan with the stone could have taken out Thor?
Originally posted by RobtardThat was Ronan's misguided opinion. Opinion isn't fact. Trump reacts in the same manner. His opinion isn't a fact either. Also how did that turn out for Ronan ? Did he obliterate all life on Xandar ? Ronan didn't even get to Thanos. He might have believed in himself with the power surge but the guy was clearly delusional and inept. There's a reason Thanos didn't take him seriously.
No, it was definitely implied, in fact it was more than implied, Ronan outright said he was going to kill Thanos after he obliterated all life on Xandar.Why do you take the word of some low-level lackey at face value, but not Ronan who was more powerful, considering he could hold a stone without exploding?
It was a connection. Do you think Ronan with the stone could have taken out Thor?
Just as many including yourself would surmise Trump believes most of the lies he uses that doesn't make it true. That's just his opinion.
Yes, Ronan with the stone could take Thor but Thor isn't Thanos. Thanos is the baddest villain out there. This isn't a secret either as we have known for years he's the grand villain all three of these marvel phases have been building to.
Originally posted by playa1258I don't need him to piss planets into oblivion. You seem highly infatuated with power levels only. It's retarded. The story matters most but mark my words Thanos will be powerful. He's been described as such and it doesn't make any sense for him not to be. For all your power lust marvel still has more powerful villains pre Thanos than DC has. Irony.
The MCU has consistently shown that it will power down characters for the sake of drama.Of course you are too much of an idiot to see that. It's obvious you have shortman syndrome, smurf.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That was Ronan's misguided opinion. Opinion isn't fact. Trump reacts in the same manner. His opinion isn't a fact either. Also how did that turn out for Ronan ? Did he obliterate all life on Xandar ? Ronan didn't even get to Thanos. He might have believed in himself with the power surge but the guy was clearly delusional and inept. There's a reason Thanos didn't take him seriously.Just as many including yourself would surmise Trump believes most of the lies he uses that doesn't make it true. That's just his opinion.
Yes, Ronan with the stone could take Thor but Thor isn't Thanos. Thanos is the baddest villain out there. This isn't a secret either as we have known for years he's the grand villain all three of these marvel phases have been building to.
So Ronan claims = misguided opinion, but Korath's (Ronan's buttboy) claims = fact. Yeah, that's just nonsense. The fact he didn't obliterate all life doesn't mean he lacked the ability to do so, he was stopped by having his hammer broken, not he tried and it didn't work. Might as well claim Thanos is a chump because we can safely assume that he will lose in the end, cos heroes win.
No one denied Thanos is the main villain, it's obvious. So not sure why you keep repeating that.
Originally posted by RobtardKevin Feige the mastermind scenes corroborates it all. I didn't say he lacked the power to obliterate life but he lacked the competency to do so when he faced resistance. So him claiming he'd best Thanos is silliness incarnate. You may have bought his bullshit but don't expect anyone else to share your views on that one. Trump believes all kinds of horseshit but ones opinion isn't a fact. I go by the evidence and the portrayals.
So Ronan claims = misguided opinion, but Korath's (Ronan's buttboy) claims = fact. Yeah, that's just nonsense. The fact he didn't obliterate all life doesn't mean he lacked the ability to do so, he was stopped by having his hammer broken, not he tried and it didn't work. Might as well claim Thanos is a chump because we can safely assume that he will lose in the end, cos heroes win.No one denied Thanos is the main villain, it's obvious. So not sure why you keep repeating that.
We also haven't even seen Thanos engage anyone so why do you believe Ronan would have won based off what you saw in the film from Ronan ? Drax fight ?
Thanos is the guy many heroes will have to come together to face including Doctor Strange. Ronan wouldn't fare so well against the avengers who are a lot more powerful than the Gotg.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't need him to piss planets into oblivion. You seem highly infatuated with power levels only. It's retarded. The story matters most but mark my words Thanos will be powerful. He's been described as such and it doesn't make any sense for him not to be. For all your power lust marvel still has more powerful villains pre Thanos than DC has. Irony.
So guys like Loki and Abomination are more powerful than Zod and Doomsday?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Kevin Feige the mastermind scenes corroborates it all. I didn't say he lacked the power to obliterate life but he lacked the competency to do so when he faced resistance. So him claiming he'd best Thanos is silliness incarnate. You may have bought his bullshit but don't expect anyone else to share your views on that one. Trump believes all kinds of horseshit but ones opinion isn't a fact. I go by the evidence and the portrayals.We also haven't even seen Thanos engage anyone so why do you believe Ronan would have won based off what you saw in the film from Ronan ? Drax fight ?
Thanos is the guy many heroes will have to come together to face including Doctor Strange. Ronan wouldn't fare so well against the avengers who are a lot more powerful than the Gotg.
Again, if you're going to take Korath's words as true, then you should take Ronan's and Ronan > Korath in every way imaginable.
You bring up a good point, Thanos as of right now has zero screen fighting feats, so why put him above a guy who has them? Ronan did not have the stone when he fought Drax; the stone vastly amped his powers, so your point is moot.
Thanos with the stones will be more powerful than Thanos without them. So unless Thanos curbstomps everyone before he gains the stones, this point is also a moot one.
Originally posted by RobtardIt isn't just Korath's but in the same scene Nebula says to Ronan this is a fight you can't win.
Again, if you're going to take Korath's words as true, then you should take Ronan's and Ronan > Korath in every way imaginable.You bring up a good point, Thanos as of right now has zero screen fighting feats, so why put him above a guy who has them? Ronan did not have the stone when he fought Drax; the stone vastly amped his powers, so your point is moot.
Thanos with the stones will be more powerful than Thanos without them. So unless Thanos curbstomps everyone before he gains the stones, this point is also a moot one.
My point is Thanos' standing, relevance, and portrayal ever since his inception. It makes no sense this one note villain was capable of downing the grand villain just because he thinks he can.
He didn't portray any exceptional skill against Drax though so despite his power amp he doesn't change his reflexes/skill level. Ronan backed down to Thanos man to man. Thanos punked him. So despite Ronan's lack of feats, Ronan's failure to deliver on his promises to Thanos, and common sense suggesting Thanos is on another level in terms of competence, intelligence, and power than Ronan what makes you think this stone would best him ?
Lets say for instance the Star Wars prequels don't get made and all we have to go in for Palpatine are his Rotj does common sense tell you Vader is his combat superior ??
Originally posted by quanchi112
It isn't just Korath's but in the same scene Nebula says to Ronan this is a fight you can't win.My point is Thanos' standing, relevance, and portrayal ever since his inception. It makes no sense this one note villain was capable of downing the grand villain just because he thinks he can.
He didn't portray any exceptional skill against Drax though so despite his power amp he doesn't change his reflexes/skill level. Ronan backed down to Thanos man to man. Thanos punked him. So despite Ronan's lack of feats, Ronan's failure to deliver on his promises to Thanos, and common sense suggesting Thanos is on another level in terms of competence, intelligence, and power than Ronan what makes you think this stone would best him ?
Lets say for instance the Star Wars prequels don't get made and all we have to go in for Palpatine are his Rotj does common sense tell you Vader is his combat superior ??
Once again that was Ronan without the stone, he became vastly more powerful with the stone. Making Ronan and Ronan+Stone to be the same in formidability is redic.
Ronan casually avoided all of Drax's attacks and utterly manhandled Drax, so you're just lowballing Ronan here and it's silly. But the whole point of Ronan getting the stone was to vastly increase his power.
You're focusing too much on "combat skills", with the stones one doesn't need to fight like Bruce Lee to be powerful, they make one powerful. eg Vision isn't some combat genius. Cap is above him in H2H, but with the stone he's vastly more powerful.