Kun, Vader, Plagueis vs. Hero, Starkiller, Tenebrous

Originally posted by AncientPower
Satele calling the HoT the champion of the Order and superior to herself is not the same as being flat out most powerful person of your era. HoT is not highly above the likes of Thon nor is anyone you just stated.

5 Different people all call the Hero the most powerful/greatest Jedi in the order or that they know of starting from very early in the game, literally during her Jedi training as a padawan. Orgus Din, Bengal Morr, Satele Shan, Tol Braga and Scourge all agree that the Hero is the best. By Act III it's pretty inarguable imo.

“The Force is strong in you. Stronger than I've seen in decades.” Orgus Din

“You are stronger than any Jedi I have known” - Bengal Morr

"We've lost one of our noblest Masters, but in his place stands a Jedi without equal." - Satele Shan (Act 1 ending)

"But he also forged our greatest weapon against the darkness." - Satele Shan (Act 1 ending)

"His (Vitiate) power is growing. Only you can stop him." - Orgus Din (ghost)

"I'm glad to finally meet you in person. They say you're the greatest Jedi the order has seen in generations." - Tol Braga (Act II start)

"Warren was the order's greatest soldier in his day--now that role falls to you." - Tol Braga (start of Act II)

“You are the Jedi's finest.” – Lord Scourge.

“You are our greatest warrior… and our best hope." – Satale Shan.

All of these guys are in great positions to be making this judgement, except possibly Bengal Morr but he was still training on Coruscant under Orgus Din and stood next to Jedi such as Ven Zallow, Corin Tok and Jellian Jarro in the Sack of Coruscant. Satele, Tol Braga and Orgus Din are all high council members and it's part of Scourge's job to monitor is a Jedi is becoming too powerful and disposing of them so I imagine he's well informed of Jedi capabilities. I say she's far above the rest because she gets these accolades so early and steadily/dramatically improves during the game.

I never claimed the people I mentioned were far greater than Thon, just that they're more impressive than the people you mentioned. Barsen'thor > Thon, Satele > Nomi, Braga > Urr, Jaric > Jeth and Jarro > Cay.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Team 1.

Exar Kun > Hero of Tython

Darth Vader > Starkiller

Darth Plagueis > Darth Tenebrous

Yhea in this case Revan too....
Revan was the only one able to stop vitiate too... But, but, he didn't and The heroe kill only the voice !!!
I Know Than His darkside equivalent the empeor wrath Take down Revan (But with help.... I'm not sure He could kill Revan without help...)

Team 1 should win this handily.

HoT's the best, but he has not far more powerful than the Barsen'thor, Satele Shan, or even Tol Bragga really.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
HoT's the best, but he has not far more powerful than the Barsen'thor, Satele Shan, or even Tol Bragga really.

This.

Being the best of the Order at the time =/= far more powerful than any Jedi of the time.

Also Thon, Jeth, Urr and Baas have both the accolades and feats to stand with anyone you mentioned.

Some of the best Battle Meditation practitioners ever? check.
Some of the best Tutaminis feats? check.
Greatest Mecha Deru practitioner of all time(Jeth)? check.
Sever Force feats like they are going out of style? check.
Second greatest Wall of Light ever? check.
Essentially believed to be the second greatest era of Jedi ever? check.

The list goes on but you get the point.

Exar Kun is stated to be 'far more powerful than any one Jedi of his time'.

When you really think about that statement 'far', that means likely on a whole other tier or range, meaning even the mighty Jedi like Thon weren't on the same power level as Kun.

Then Kun is mentioned to be 'once the most powerful of the Ancient Sith Lords' meaning he is > Vitiate at the time of the TOTJ, he is stated to be one of the greatest sorcerers of all time and to have more knowledge of the Dark Side than Vader.

Originally posted by AncientPower
This.
n the mighty Jedi like Thon weren't on the same power level as Kun.

Then Kun is mentioned to be 'once the most powerful of the Ancient Sith Lords' meaning he is > Vitiate at the time of the TOTJ, .

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I see no problem placing Kun over Vitiate, seeing as Kun's off nexus feats are superior to Vitiate's.