Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This morning, I ate cereal on my own.Now, carver, did I use a spoon, a fork, or, as you would assert, my bare hands?
A few minutes before, just so you know, I was told to take a spoon in my hand.
Did your anger increase which also increased your strength and did you use unimaginable strength and unimaginable power to shatter the bowl? If that happened, then I would say you broke the bowl.
Originally posted by carver9
Did your anger increase which also increased your strength and did you use unimaginable strength and unimaginable power to shatter the bowl? If that happened, then I would say you broke the bowl.
Lol typical comprehension fail.
The task I completed was to eat cereal. Not break the bowl. I was told to complete a task.
How did I achieve this task?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol typical comprehension fail.The task I completed was to eat cereal. Not break the bowl. I was told to complete a task.
How did I achieve this task?
You achieved it by eating the cereal with either your hand, ft, spoon, turning it up in your bowl.
What the comic said about Hulk is "Get angry. It takes unimaginable power and strength to shatter the time stream. Hulk, you broke the time stream". The only thing the metal did was show Hulk a target. The metal allowed Hulk to see Zarko...no assistance in helping him punch time/space. Hell, even after this Hulk was able to grip the time stream.
http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/sonnendawg/media/hulk/24hulk.jpg.html
What does this scan say you need if you want something truly shattered?
http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/sonnendawg/media-full/hulk/17hulk.jpg.html
Before the time shattering we don't see Zarko at all as shown here.
http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/sonnendawg/media/hulk/16hulk.jpg.html
We still don't see Zarko. He is in a lab watching everything from the side lines. No signs of him. He even states he is in a lab (that isn't anywhere in the time stream and as shown in this scan, we still don't see Zarko in the time stream with Hulk and Banner).
http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/sonnendawg/media/hulk/17hulk.jpg.html
Hulk then grabs the metal and press the button on the chrono metal and guess who pops up behind him? Zarko.
http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/sonnendawg/media-full/hulk/19hulk.jpg.html
Banner wouldn't have been able to see Zarko without the Chrono metal but as stated on panel, it took his strength to achieve what he did. Nothing was said on the Chrono metal having anything to do with shattering time.
Originally posted by carver9
You achieved it by eating the cereal with either your hand, ft, spoon, turning it up in your bowl.
Cool.
But, Darksaint85 did it on his own.
So, what does that tell you?
We'll get there, carver, we'll get there.
Oh, before you answer, I want to give you this nugget of information:
<Begin scene>
For if you want something well and truly EATEN, you need incredible strength and unimaginable power!
Get Hungry!
Now, Darksaint85, with the spoon in your hand, eat that cereal as quickly as you can!!!!
*Epilogue*
Darksaint85 ate that cereal on his own, without any help.
<end scene>
Now tell me carver, did I eat that cereal with my bare hands, or did I use a spoon?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cool.But, Darksaint85 did it on his own.
So, what does that tell you?
We'll get there, carver, we'll get there.
Oh, before you answer, I want to give you this nugget of information:
[b]<Begin scene>
For if you want something well and truly EATEN, you need incredible strength and unimaginable power!Get Hungry!
Now, Darksaint85, with the spoon in your hand, eat that cereal as quickly as you can!!!!
*Epilogue*
Darksaint85 ate that cereal on his own, without any help.
<end scene>
Now tell me carver, did I eat that cereal with my bare hands, or did I use a spoon? [/B]
Again i ask...what does this scan say is needed to shatter it?
http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/sonnendawg/media-full/hulk/17hulk.jpg.html
What Darksaint?
Originally posted by carver9
Again i ask...what does this scan say is needed to shatter it?http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/sonnendawg/media-full/hulk/17hulk.jpg.html
What Darksaint?
You....haven't even read my summary, have you? Read it again on your phone. Stop. Read it again. Scroll back up. Read it again. Think. Then read it again, and then reply.
Here, I'll type it again:
<Begin scene>
1. For if you want something well and truly EATEN, you need incredible strength and unimaginable power!Get Hungry!
2. Now, Darksaint85, with the spoon in your hand, eat that cereal as quickly as you can!!!!
*Epilogue*
3. Darksaint85 ate that cereal on his own, without any help.
<end scene>
Now tell me carver, did I eat that cereal with my bare hands, or did I use a spoon?
YOUR interepretation: I will stop reading after statement 1. Statement 2 does not exist. Therefore, Statement 3 and Statement 2 exist only. I ate it under my own power, THEREFORE, I ate it with my bare hands.
MY interpretation: 1, 2, and 3 all exist. I was on my own, nobody helped me eat that cereal. I ate it under my own power. I was told to take a spoon in my hand, and that is what I used.
You're just deliberately being stubborn now.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You....haven't even read my summary, have you? Read it again on your phone. Stop. Read it again. Scroll back up. Read it again. Think. Then read it again, and then reply.Here, I'll type it again:
YOUR interepretation: I will stop reading after statement 1. Statement 2 does not exist. Therefore, Statement 3 and Statement 2 exist only. I ate it under my own power, THEREFORE, I ate it with my bare hands.
MY interpretation: 1, 2, and 3 all exist. I was on my own, nobody helped me eat that cereal. I ate it under my own power. I was told to take a spoon in my hand, and that is what I used.
You're just deliberately being stubborn now.
Lol...but you're scenario is weird as hell though since it doesn't require strength to pick up a spoon and eat cereal. It required strength to do what Hulk did since again it was stated "it takes true strength AND unimaginable power to shatter time". Which is what was discussed about Hulk. It didn't say, "it takes strength, unimaginable power and chrono metal to shatter time'. Like I've stated before, Zarko didn't show up until Hulk got ahold of the metal. Hulk then punch the area with a hand that didn't have the metal in it and he shattered time. It's then said after this "Hulk, you have shattered time". Then right after this, Hulk with those same green strong hands gripped time and space on a physical level. You can keep denying this if you want but yet again, everything goes against your concept (lol, it's said RIGHT ON PANEL THAT IT TAKES STRENGTH AND UNIMAGINABLE POWER TO SHATTER TIME).
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...but you're scenario is weird as hell though since it doesn't require strength to pick up a spoon and eat cereal. It required strength to do what Hulk did since again it was stated "it takes true strength AND unimaginable power to shatter time". Which is what was discussed about Hulk. It didn't say, "it takes strength, unimaginable power and chrono metal to shatter time'. Like I've stated before, Zarko didn't show up until Hulk got ahold of the metal. Hulk then punch the area with a hand that didn't have the metal in it and he shattered time. It's then said after this "Hulk, you have shattered time". Then right after this, Hulk with those same green strong hands gripped time and space on a physical level. You can keep denying this if you want but yet again, everything goes against your concept (lol, it's said RIGHT ON PANEL THAT IT TAKES STRENGTH AND UNIMAGINABLE POWER TO SHATTER TIME).
It requires some strength. Fine, replace it with 'cereal eating skills' or whatever. You are still missing the main point. That just because in the epilogue, you say 'Darksaint85 ate cereal on his own, without help', doesn't mean I was sitting on the floor, without a bowl (which, you added, incidentally, proving my point), eating cereal with my bare hands, naked in a field. No.
The writer does not have to add that I was sitting at my table, on a chair, wearing clothes, with my cereal in a bowl, using a spoon, for you, does he?? Do you REALLY have to be (lol) spoonfed EVERY . SINGLE. DETAIL? And even if you were, it said a few pages before that I grabbed a spoon and ate cereal with it.
I am using this scenario, because it ISN'T weird as hell. It's a perfect analogy, which you are not grasping. Hell, like I said before, YOU YOURSELF added a cereal bowl into the picture, even though I didn't specify one. Why? Because you;re smart. You DON'T have to be spoonfed every single detail.
I am not saying Hulk did not use ANY strength. That Captain America or Jarvis or anyone else with chrono metal in their hands can punch the time barrier. I am saying, it is not a pure strength feat, and to use it as an example of Hulk's strength, is like using SBP retcon punching through Luthor's machine as a pure strength feat.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It requires some strength. Fine, replace it with 'cereal eating skills' or whatever. You are still missing the main point. That just because in the epilogue, you say 'Darksaint85 ate cereal on his own, without help', doesn't mean I was sitting on the floor, without a bowl (which, you added, incidentally, proving my point), eating cereal with my bare hands, naked in a field. No.The writer does not have to add that I was sitting at my table, on a chair, wearing clothes, with my cereal in a bowl, using a spoon, for you, does he?? Do you REALLY have to be (lol) spoonfed EVERY . SINGLE. DETAIL? And even if you were, it said a few pages before that I grabbed a spoon and ate cereal with it.
I am using this scenario, because it ISN'T weird as hell. It's a perfect analogy, which you are not grasping. Hell, like I said before, YOU YOURSELF added a cereal bowl into the picture, even though I didn't specify one. Why? Because you;re smart. You DON'T have to be spoonfed every single detail.
I am not saying Hulk did not use ANY strength. That Captain America or Jarvis or anyone else with chrono metal in their hands can punch the time barrier. I am saying, it is not a pure strength feat, and to use it as an example of Hulk's strength, is like using SBP retcon punching through Luthor's machine as a pure strength feat.
Like ive continued to tell, You can believe what you want. I see what the metal did and I also read what Hulk did. By the way, your analogy is terrible.
Originally posted by carver9
Like ive continued to tell, You can believe what you want. I see what the metal did and I also read what Hulk did. By the way, your analogy is terrible.
So....no argument against it. Just a blanket 'you're terrible' statement.
Any other HH can replicate what Hulk did with the chronal metal, once they have it in their hands. Prove me wrong.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So....no argument against it. Just a blanket 'you're terrible' statement.Any other HH can replicate what Hulk did with the chronal metal, once they have it in their hands. Prove me wrong.
Prove that the chrono metal had anything to do with it. As I stated, the chrono metal showed a target, that's it.
Your stance...you think it takes super strength and unimaginable power to lift a spoon. My stance, I think it takes unimaginable power and super strength to rip time and space as what was stated on panel.
Also, like I've stated before, without even having the metal in his hand, he was capable of gripping a wall of time. You can believe what you want Darksaint.
Originally posted by carver9
Prove that the chrono metal had anything to do with it.
As I stated, the chrono metal showed a target, that's it.
So....it had SOMETHING to do with it? At least we are getting somewhere.
Your stance...you think it takes super strength and unimaginable power to lift a spoon. My stance, I think it takes unimaginable power and super strength to rip time and space as what was stated on panel.Also, like I've stated before, without even having the metal in his hand, he was capable of gripping a wall of time. You can believe what you want Darksaint. [/B]
Erm, no, that's not my stance. RE-read my posts. I can tell this ALWAYS gets you.
I can see my analogies are confusing you terribly. I will remove them, and use item A, Task B, Power C, and Power D.
Your stance: Use Power C and Power D to complete Task B!
My stance: Use Power C, Power D to complete Task B! Take Item A and do it!
NOW do you understand?
Proof? Well, why did the writer put in chronal metal? You are so quick to point out Hulk using the serum just before the Sun God fight, and yet, when the writer inserts a plot point, you disregard it.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So....it had SOMETHING to do with it? At least we are getting somewhere.Erm, no, that's not my stance. RE-read my posts. I can tell this ALWAYS gets you.
I can see my analogies are confusing you terribly. I will remove them, and use item A, Task B, Power C, and Power D.
Your stance: Use Power C and Power D to complete Task B!
My stance: Use Power C, Power D to complete Task B! Take Item A and do it!NOW do you understand?
Proof? Well, why did the writer put in chronal metal? You are so quick to point out Hulk using the serum just before the Sun God fight, and yet, when the writer inserts a plot point, you disregard it.
I told you what it did. It gave Hulk a target. How do we know his Chrono suit shows images when it's lighting up? As shown here, the suit lights up and we see Flashes of Banner along with Hulk as well.
http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/sonnendawg/media-full/hulk/16hulk.jpg.html
What else do we see when the suit is lit? We see Uber Hulk running at Banner inside the time stream.
http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/sonnendawg/media-full/hulk/17hulk.jpg.html
What does the time suit do that Banner had in his hand...it carries beings through space time (brought Zarko there for Hulk to punch...the Uber Hulk...etc, etc...)
http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/sonnendawg/media-full/hulk/11hulk.jpg.html
Let's continue...
Character A wasn't there during the beginning of the comic. Character B grabs something, activate it and bing, character A is right behind character B. Character B then punches at the target and it's stated as soon as he activates the device, HIT HIM WITH ALL OF YOUR MIGHT. HARDER THAT YOU'VE EVER HIT ANYONE. What more proof do you need Dark?
So what's the purpose of his suit, create images and bring people through the time zone. Have NOTHING to do with Hulk ripping through time, nothing at all unless you can provide that proof Dark. Hulk activates the armor...brings Zarko in front of Hulk and Hulk punch the time stream with his strength and unimaginable power. End of story.
