I dunno but I don't have Caedus that far below ROTS Sidious. Krayt isn't going down as fast as Kit, especially not with those team mates. It'll take a few seconds to cook Bane if he happens to catch him full on, he likely won't be able to do it right at the beginning of the fight but if he did, the other two will already be on him.
Krayt or Bane would fall immediately to TK or lightning, and again theyre massively beneath him in terms of speed. A loser like Hetton was capable of dodging Banes lightning, and even Krayt at his fastest still locked blades with those IKs before going down. Sidious can take them out at any point. Caedus on the other hand no
Originally posted by carthage
Krayt or Bane would fall immediately to TK or lightning,
Preetty sure they have good force defense. I mean, Krayt can bare-hand lightning, something only the best energy absorbers can do, and they're both, well, really tough.
May be knocked on their butts, but that's about it.
and again theyre massively beneath him in terms of speed.
Nooo, not really. I mean, they're faster than Fisto or Savage to be sure. Sidious is one of the very fastest fighters, but he's not that much over strong sith lords, just a bit more.
It requires a fair gap to do a blitz, there's very few force users on *any* of the teams that are vulnerable to one by anyone.
and even Krayt at his fastest still locked blades with those IKs before going down.
Uh, actually they didn't. Three died without blades touching, the fourth and leader had his blade meet Krayt's and was disarmed. And that was with all four attacking at once.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Nah, Sidious is a lot faster than Krayt. Won't mean much in a 3v1 though.
I'm not saying he's not faster, but.... Fisto and Savage weren't blitzed. Badly out *skilled*, but they could react to the speed.
I don't think the gaps between Sidious and the other highish tiers is big.
Sids is too fast for some but not all council members. That doesn't actually speak to too huge of a speed gap.
It's his skill that matters most, while he does have one of the best blitzing feats in the saga, even that shows that the level needed to react to him isn't *that* high.
You're mistaken. The moment Sidious fights Maul seriously is the moment he's overwhelmed by his speed.
"Sidiois raised his saber and flew at Maul, who parried desperately, his mechanical legs whirring as he sought to counter his former master's blows. Sidious's sabers were a blur, a whirling cage of deadly plasma. Maul danced away from one blow, then reversed his movement to avoid another, and then there were too many to count, and then there were even more than that. Maul's sabers spun out of his hands, bouncing away across the floor."
-Shadow Conspiracy
Regardless though, in a 3v1 (Or even a 2v1) Palpatine would have to distribute his blows between multiple fast opponents, so his speed shouldn't be any problem. That being said, his everything else is just as potent.
I was just going to post that, also he moved fast enough to completely fade from Maul's senses as well.
Neither Bane or Krayt pose a significant threat to Sidious even 2 vs 1, the only guy who can realistically even take him is Caedus. I'm not seeing any way for them to even harm him let alone be able to track his speed. He can dismiss either of them with drain, TK, or lightning, and again he can't truly die given essence transfer. Even if he got downed he could possess one of them and slaughter their teamates
Originally posted by NewGuy01
You're mistaken. The moment Sidious fights Maul seriously is the moment he's overwhelmed by his speed."Sidiois raised his saber and flew at Maul, who parried desperately, his mechanical legs whirring as he sought to counter his former master's blows. Sidious's sabers were a blur, a whirling cage of deadly plasma. Maul danced away from one blow, then reversed his movement to avoid another, and then there were too many to count, and then there were even more than that. Maul's sabers spun out of his hands, bouncing away across the floor."
[b]-Shadow Conspiracy
Regardless though, in a 3v1 (Or even a 2v1) Palpatine would have to distribute his blows between multiple fast opponents, so his speed shouldn't be any problem. That being said, his everything else is just as potent. [/B]
Well done, You just put a nail in the coffin of the Maul fanboys trying to claim Maul can take on all-out Sids.
Re: Sheev Palpatine Runs The Gauntlet
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The old man gets full rest in between each fight. How far does he get?
1. Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ahsoka Tano, and Anakin Skywalker.
2. Darth Vader, Darth Maul, Count Dooku, and Savage Opress.
3. Darth Nox, Emperors Wrath. Cipher 9, and Grand Champion.
4. Hero of Tython, Barsen'thor, Smuggler, and Vanguard Solider.
5. Darth Malgus, Darth Marr, Satele Shan, and Darth Jadus.
6. Darth Traya, Darth Sion, the Jedi Exile, and Darth Malak.
7. Exar Kun, Ulic-Qel Droma, and Darth Revan Reborn.
8. Darth Bane Armored, Darth Caedus, and Darth Krayt Reborn.
9. Luke Skywalker, Yoda, Mace Windu, and Cade Skywalker.
10. The Sith Emperor, Darth Nihilus, and the Terror from Beyond.
1. Stomps
2. Wins, Maul and Oppress are fodder, Dooku is slightly better than fodder, Vader is a mild challenge. He kills Maul and Oppress before they can react, and then clearly beats Vader + Dooku.
3. Stomps.
4. Stomps.
5. Stomps.
6. Stomps.
7. "Darth Revan Reborn?" Anyway wins with moderate difficulty. Ulic is fodder, so it's basically Kun + Revan. Sidious should force a duel at that point, where Revan has basically no feats.
8. Bane is fodder, but Caedus + Krayt might defeat him. DE Sidious probably wins or splits, RotS/RotJ probably lose.
9. lol Luke solos.
10. IDK much about the Terror, but isn't it rumored to be like an Abeloth-tier threat? In either case, DE Sidious has a chance against just Vitiate and Nihilus.
Re: Sheev Palpatine Runs The Gauntlet
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The old man gets full rest in between each fight. How far does he get?
1. Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ahsoka Tano, and Anakin Skywalker.
2. Darth Vader, Darth Maul, Count Dooku, and Savage Opress.
3. Darth Nox, Emperors Wrath. Cipher 9, and Grand Champion.
4. Hero of Tython, Barsen'thor, Smuggler, and Vanguard Solider.
5. Darth Malgus, Darth Marr, Satele Shan, and Darth Jadus.
6. Darth Traya, Darth Sion, the Jedi Exile, and Darth Malak.
7. Exar Kun, Ulic-Qel Droma, and Darth Revan Reborn.
8. Darth Bane Armored, Darth Caedus, and Darth Krayt Reborn.
9. Luke Skywalker, Yoda, Mace Windu, and Cade Skywalker.
10. The Sith Emperor, Darth Nihilus, and the Terror from Beyond.