SS4 Gogeta vs Whis

Started by juggerman2 pages
Originally posted by Galan007
ie. Vegito>>>>>>>Buuhan>>>Buutenks>Mystic Gohan>>>SSJ3 Gotenks~Super Buu>>>>SSJ3 Goku>>Fat Buu>>SSJ2 Majin Vegeta.

You keep getting this little tid bit wrong guy. Super Buu>SSJ3 Gotenks

Originally posted by juggerman
You keep getting this little tid bit wrong guy. Super Buu>SSJ3 Gotenks
True, hence the "~" symbol. It allows for some wiggle room between them, as the difference was marginal at best. Super Buu just had the ever-so-slight advantage.

No wiggle. Buu was stronger. SAY IT!

Originally posted by Galan007
Source?

Evidently a Potara fusion IS akin to multiplying the power of the two fusees, as stated in the Daizenshuu:
http://i.imgur.com/0jTQnXY.jpg

It was also stated that Vegito was an even more powerful fusion because Goku/Vegeta were rivals:
http://i.imgur.com/72Xcw42.gif

Imo, multiplying their powers is the only way that Vegito could have turned out to be as ridiculously powerful as he was... Especially when we consider that Goku and Vegeta [individually] were FAR inferior to some of Buu's weakest incarnations.
ie. Vegito>>>>>>>Buuhan>>>Buutenks>Mystic Gohan>>>SSJ3 Gotenks~Super Buu>>>>SSJ3 Goku>>Fat Buu>>SSJ2 Majin Vegeta.

However, the implications of the multiplication concept are staggering, so I kind of take it with a grain of salt. /shrug

The source was a statement that Toriyama made in an interview. He basically said that SSJG was to SSJ3 as SSJ1 is to base form. This, in simplest terms, proves SSJG is 50X boost to SSJ3, and it's much easier to control.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Yes, base Goku in GT is stronger than Buuhan.
But that doesn't necessarily mean that GT Goku is stronger than Vegetto.

Remember, base Vegetto was practically toying with Buuhan. He even deflected Buuhan's strongest attack.
SSJ1 Vegetto in candy form was still stronger, faster, and more durable than Buuhan.

Vegetto let Buu absorb him so that he could save everyone absorbed by Buu.

Not to mention, the Potata Earrings is a better fusion form than the Fusion Dance. It multiplies the power of two individuals, instead of simply adding them like in Fusion Dance.

Um, yes, that is EXACTLY what it means.

That did not happen. It isn't even acknowledged by the Daizenshuu, as it DIRECTLY contradicts the manga. Vegetto turned SSJ as soon as he fused, and didn't fight with Buuhan at all as base Vegetto. End of story. This is because he was too weak to win as base Vegetto, but was able to toy with Buu in SSJ1.

GT Goku in base form was stronger than Buuhan. This means he is stronger than Vegetto, and even has three forms HIGHER than Vegetto ever did. Vegetto in base was stronger than SSJ3 Goku. This means that SSJ1 Vegetto > SSJG Goku, by as much as base Vegetto was to SSJ3 Goku. This means SSJ1 Vegetto ~ Bills. What this means, is that since Whiss is 50% stronger than Bills, he is the same to SSJ1 Vegetto. SSJ2 is a 5X boost to SSJ1. This means SSJ2 Vegetto would stomp Whiss. HARD. SSJ2 GT Goku would stomp him even HARDER. SSJ4 ANYTHING against Whiss is OVERKILL. Let alone SSJ4 Gogeta, for christ sake.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
The source was a statement that Toriyama made in an interview. He basically said that SSJG was to SSJ3 as SSJ1 is to base form. This, in simplest terms, proves SSJG is 50X boost to SSJ3, and it's much easier to control.

Can we have the link to this?

Sounds believable tbh, but we'd need to see it.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Can we have the link to this?

Sounds believable tbh, but we'd need to see it.

Question: "Goku endlessly keeps getting stronger, with Super Saiyan 3 in the manga and Super Saiyan 4 in the anime; does Super Saiyan keep getting limitlessly stronger too? Might we eventually see things such as a Super Saiyan 5…?!"

Answer: "Super Saiyan 2 and 3 are nothing more than powered-up variations of Super Saiyan, and are less powered up in comparison to him normally and Super Saiyan 1, much like (Super Saiyan)God. After the fight with Beerus, Goku realized that mastering his normal state and Super Saiyan would raise his level more and sap less strength, so I think he probably won’t become Super Saiyan 2 or 3 any more."

This is a pretty available interview, you can just look it up on Google if you want.