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Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by Bentley
Eh, I kind of wish you could read what I write.

Don't get me wrong. I love the writing part, it's what I excel at and it's the most important criterion for me when it comes to assessing a writer's skill, but without a decent plot (and strong characters) the best fiction writing falls flat, unless it's flash fiction in which case you can get away with it, or if it's something like Joyce's Ulysses.

It's not an either/or proposition either. Most of the best prose stylists are also fantastic plotters and character creators, and on the flipside a lot of the worst writers also struggle to create believable characters and coherent plots.

Mindship Snap out of it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Don't be so hard on yourself. You shared some of your stuff a long time ago, with me. One thing that I think you do better than 99.9% of mainstream authors out there is write (seems odd, but I'll explain what I mean). You have what I would call "delicious prose." Your writing style is the type that, even if you're not interested in the story or lose interest, the prose can sometimes catch the reader's attention.
Why thank you, sir. Know any publishers? (j/k)

Originally posted by dadudemon
For me, 50% of a good novel is the prose, alone. I don't care what people say about the Twilight series, but some of the stories regarding the characters are really really good. But the dialogue and prose from Stephenie Meyer sucks massive turds. It pretty much ruins her series. I can deal with angsty teens because they are teens. I can deal with sappy romance novels because the novels from her are supposed to be sappy romance novels. Those things do not bother me. But her f*cking prose, man...I swear, it is written by an 11-year-old, at times.
This reminds me of comments regarding E.L. James and her book, "Fifty Shades of Grey." It's been said that her prose is nothing to write home about, if not being downright amateurish. But it's got (overtly) strong sexual themes, and that's all the publishing business cares about cuz sex sells. Actually, a few years back, I had read some of Fifty, and the prose, while hardly "delicious" despite the topic, wasn't all that bad. Basic, gets the gist, I would say.

Robtard Senor Member
Originally posted by dadudemon

The last month I was there, I advised all of my clients all of the insurance policy loopholes to get them the highest payouts and the easiest methods of getting payouts.

I'm pretty sure I saw this in 'The Incredibles'.

Bardock42 Junior Member
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Joyce

I think you misspelled "choice"

Bentley Seitei

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Don't get me wrong. I love the writing part, it's what I excel at and it's the most important criterion for me when it comes to assessing a writer's skill, but without a decent plot (and strong characters) the best fiction writing falls flat, unless it's flash fiction in which case you can get away with it, or if it's something like Joyce's Ulysses.

It's not an either/or proposition either. Most of the best prose stylists are also fantastic plotters and character creators, and on the flipside a lot of the worst writers also struggle to create believable characters and coherent plots.

I don't disagree, there is a middleground where plotters and poets make for the best prose. Downright disregarding either is ludicrous, specially considering the kind of litterary history we have had in the last century.

Have you read Borges? I don't actually know much of his english translations, but he's my favorite spanish speaking writer.

Mindship Snap out of it.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It's not an either/or proposition either. Most of the best prose stylists are also fantastic plotters and character creators, and on the flipside a lot of the worst writers also struggle to create believable characters and coherent plots.
Actually, what I realized was that, while I could write well, I was not necessarily a good storyteller. Looking back at earlier stuff, I can see Marty Stu practically all over the place.

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dadudemon Senior Member
Originally posted by Robtard
I'm pretty sure I saw this in 'The Incredibles'.

Where do you think I got the idea? 😄

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by Bentley
What would you like to write?

I'm currently working on a steampunk-setting were the rise of technology is at war (both figuratively and literally) with the practice of magic, think the Victorian era versus the Renaissance.

Technology—as in structured manipulation of the laws of nature—like steam engines create a feedback that makes it difficult to use magic in its presence, inversely the use of magic interferes with technology and has made it virtually impossible to rely certain forms of technology such as electronics, hence steampunk!

Oh, and the nature of magic will turn out to be related to eldritch horrors whose mere presence will drive you insane to the point where you'll scratch out your own eyes (as well as a good chunk of your face) before bleeding to death. But I think I've given away too much already.

Robtard Senor Member

Seems likes a mixture of other books/movies/comics/ideas, but I like it regardless. Nothing wrong with doing something that has already been done, as long as you put your own spin on it and most importantly, make it not suck dirty ass.

So make it not suck dirty ass and you have a winner on your hands, Astner!

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Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by Bentley
I don't disagree, there is a middleground where plotters and poets make for the best prose. Downright disregarding either is ludicrous, specially considering the kind of litterary history we have had in the last century.

Have you read Borges? I don't actually know much of his english translations, but he's my favorite spanish speaking writer.


Yeah I've read some Borges. He was the greatest writer to have never won a major international prize.
Originally posted by Mindship
Actually, what I realized was that, while I could write well, I was not necessarily a good storyteller. Looking back at earlier stuff, I can see Marty Stu practically all over the place.

People who can write well but can't write a good story or craft a good character are common. Much rarer are masters of plot and characterization who can't write a good sentence to save their lives, simply because writing is much easier than plotting or creating a good character.

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Originally posted by AbnormalButSane
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Awesome!!!

I want to complete my physics degree. I know for a fact that I'm rusty as f*ck. That will be probably 3 or 4 years down the road, though. 🙁 But, when I do, I will beg you for help.

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Originally posted by dadudemon
Awesome!!!

I want to complete my physics degree. I know for a fact that I'm rusty as f*ck. That will be probably 3 or 4 years down the road, though. 🙁 But, when I do, I will beg you for help.

Heresy, you be completing my donut shop before that!

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Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yeah I've read some Borges. He was the greatest writer to have never won a major international prize.

Take that Dante biscuits

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Originally posted by dadudemon
Awesome!!!

I want to complete my physics degree. I know for a fact that I'm rusty as f*ck. That will be probably 3 or 4 years down the road, though. 🙁 But, when I do, I will beg you for help.

haermm As long as you don't need help in electrodynamics.

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