Best Debater by Era [Friendly Competition]

Started by Fated Xtasy12 pages

Originally posted by red8
Current active KMC posters:

Neph - Old Republic era (KoTOR and TOR)
Darth Power - Dooku
Emperor DMB - Bane era
Marco - Maul
Q99 - Legacy and Knight Errant

I like this list, it's pretty solid. Neph knows a lot about Kotor in general(KoTOR, KoTOR 2 & TOR) DarthAnt is a lot more focused on KoTOR and Revan imo. I'd like to think, i know a lot about Meetra & KoTOR 2, but obviously not as much as Neph.

Dooku, Skywalker, Yoda- Lord Stark

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
I like this list, it's pretty solid. Neph knows a lot about Kotor in general(KoTOR, KoTOR 2 & TOR) DarthAnt is a lot more focused on KoTOR and Revan imo. I'd like to think, i know a lot about Meetra & KoTOR 2, but obviously not as much as Neph.

Nephs knowledge isn't really knowledge though.

He's terrible with Revan, and even worse with Surik for that matter. His only actual positive in some peoples eyes is that he consistently wanks TOR era Jedi using accolades over feats...

I hate to admit it but even Ant should be above him, despite his pis poor knowledge of the Exile...

Ahem, I know a ton of Revan and rate him at exactly the same place everyone else does, higher in some cases. So I fail to see how I'm terrible with him. Just because I don't believe all of the horseshit Ant spews about him doesn't make me bad on him.

And my knowledge of Meetra is bad only in that I don't wank the shit out of her and make up stuff like some I could mention. I seem to recall schooling you on Kotor 2 on the day you showed up here, so if I'm bad I suppose you're worse.

I also recall you saying I was the best KMC debater shortly afterwards, so I clearly impressed. >:]

Originally posted by Nephthys
Ahem, I know a ton of Revan and rate him at exactly the same place everyone else does, higher in some cases. So I fail to see how I'm terrible with him. Just because I don't believe all of the horseshit Ant spews about him doesn't make me bad on him.

And my knowledge of Meetra is bad only in that I don't wank the shit out of her and make up stuff like some I could mention. I seem to recall schooling you on Kotor 2 on the day you showed up here, so if I'm bad I suppose you're worse.

I also recall you saying I was the best KMC debater shortly afterwards, so I clearly impressed. >:]

Ant has impressed me on the Revan front a lot more than you, this isn't about knowledge but how you apply it.

You rate Zannah above him, so no you really don't have him on the same tier.

And yes your knowledge on Meetra is lacking, you use the Revan novel as a way of boosting TOR characters above her and dismiss any valid theories, which are actually declared valid by the author them self, just to make your favorite characters better.

You "beat" me on that very topic IIRC, so no I wouldn't count that. You're just in denial.

And I did say that, you're right. I was new and naive, the people I rate above you are as follows:
Tempest
Sidious
Carthage
Ant
Fated
Freshest
Beni
Aurbere, and more. Probably. If I could remember any others.

I put you around Marco level...

Originally posted by Selenial

And I did say that, you're right. I was new and naive, the people I rate above you are as follows:

Carthage

Originally posted by Nephthys
Ahem, I know a ton of Revan and rate him at exactly the same place everyone else does, higher in some cases.

Saying you know more about Revan then me is lolworthy.
I have spent entire days simply perfecting my knowledge on Revan. 😐
Originally posted by Selenial
Nephs knowledge isn't really knowledge though.
He's terrible with Revan,

👆
Ant has impressed me on the Revan front a lot more than you, this isn't about knowledge but how you apply it.

Thank you Sel. ^^
I put you around Marco level...

👆

Originally posted by Selenial

And I did say that, you're right. I was new and naive, the people I rate above you are as follows:

Carthage

Uhm, this will break Neph's heart . 😄

I like to think that I know quite a bit about the mythos. But then again, who is going to say that they don't know anything? 😛

Originally posted by Nargaroth
Uhm, this will break Neph's heart . 😄

It's not like him to be so in awe over himself anyway.
At a point I considered Nephthys among the finest debaters KMC had to offer.
Now a days he's really slacking... he no longer knows how to apply knowledge to debates.

Originally posted by Dionysus

Laugh all you want, whilst Carthage might troll from time to time he's actually a better debater than Neph IMO, won't join debates that he knows are slaughters just to defend a favourite character (Zannah vs Revan or HOT vs Yoda, stomps like that) but only debate those he thinks have a legitimate chance of winning.

And he's not one of these children who only got interested in Star Wars by the Shiny games or TV shows, at least he doesn't seem like it.

Originally posted by Selenial
I hate to admit it but even Ant should be above him, despite his pis poor knowledge of the Exile...

Nah, before I read TOR:Revan I did a lot of research on The Jedi Exile. Some of my findings were so good I never actually shared them. 😉
After reading TOR:Revan, I admit I erased a lot of that data for the new stuff. Granted though, I do put the Jedi Exile pretty high, just not Meetra.

Originally posted by Just Stan
Neph >>> Marco, let's not go overboard.

Why though?

Neph tries to put HOT on Yoda tier, Marco tries to put Maul on Dooku/Vader tier. If anything Marco is less severe.

Don't get me wrong, I love Neph as a person but his arguments make me want to cry.

Since this seems the place to ask, Does anyone want the Kaggath series posted here so anyone can post some casual thoughts on the matter without needing a $15 subscription? I can sort it out if you want, I've had a couple people ask as it is.

Originally posted by Selenial
Since this seems the place to ask, Does anyone want the Kaggath series posted here so anyone can post some casual thoughts on the matter without needing a $15 subscription? I can sort it out if you want, I've had a couple people ask as it is.

Was your Revan and Meetra proposition for me a joke or are you still interested in that?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Was your Revan and Meetra proposition for me a joke or are you still interested in that?

I was serious 😛

Though we're on space battles ATM, I have a massive firepower lead with half the fighters. Someone at the moment is arguing that Nek Bwua'tu and Mace > Revan Surik, Jace Malcom and Wedge in terms of Tactics... So that's a thing.

But I'd post all this in the thread if I made it.

Originally posted by Selenial
I was serious 😛

Though we're on space battles ATM, I have a massive firepower lead with half the fighters. Someone at the moment is arguing that Nek Bwua'tu and Mace > Revan Surik, Jace Malcom and Wedge in terms of Tactics... So that's a thing.

But I'd post all this in the thread if I made it.


Space isn't my thing obviously, but when you get to the dueling part, let me know.

Originally posted by Selenial
Ant has impressed me on the Revan front a lot more than you, this isn't about knowledge but how you apply it.

You rate Zannah above him, so no you really don't have him on the same tier.

And yes your knowledge on Meetra is lacking, you use the Revan novel as a way of boosting TOR characters above her and dismiss any valid theories, which are actually declared valid by the author them self, just to make your favorite characters better.

You "beat" me on that very topic IIRC, so no I wouldn't count that. You're just in denial.

And I did say that, you're right. I was new and naive, the people I rate above you are as follows:
Tempest
Sidious
Carthage
Ant
Fated
Freshest
Beni
Aurbere, and more. Probably. If I could remember any others.

I put you around Marco level...

Not surprised you're impressed by him. His arguments typically involve extrapolating too much from too little information, forming insane, ludicrous theories or buying into faulty sources. He's you, just with an outtie instead of an innie.

No, I just have Zannah on a higher tier than you and other do. And it seems to go pretty well for me since even when you started "trying" in the Zannah vs Jaina thread, I still won. On Revan I put him where everyone does: Above Dooku, near Vader level Force powers, Ventress level sabers.

That's not my knowledge, that's a choice that I make in evaluating the knowledge that I have. I simply don't buy into the justification you offer (because it's bad) and don't believe that you should be taking your pet theory as established canon. And I don't do it to make my favorite characters better, which is HI-larious coming from you. I don't even like Revan, Vitiate or Nyriss while Traya is my favorite character in the mythos. If I was basing my decisions off who I like the mostest I'd have the Exile as amazing as possible to make Kreia look better.

Funny, considering even Legend managed to call you out on the subject of your faulty theory. I mean, you were flat out wrong against both of us, so I don't see how it doesn't count.

And I put Legend above you. Say what you want about him, but at least he actually provides solid evidence and makes compelling arguments once in a while.

Originally posted by Selenial
Zannah vs Revan or HOT vs Yoda, stomps like that

Oh really? Well since Ant doesn't have it in him, why not step into the ring with me and prove it? I'll kick your ass on Zannah vs Revan any day of the week. HoT vs Yoda though, I've never suggested the former would win or has the feats to compare in a duel.

Why are you so mad?

LOL Nephthys is mad as ****. Then again, I would be too if I formed the same arguments like he did.
My all time favorite is that he says Zannah can hide behind a Force barrier an entire fight, defending against all attacks.