SSJ4 Goku -VS- SSG Goku

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SSJ4 Goku -VS- SSG Goku

GT SSJ4 Goku

VS

SSG Goku

Both combatants have no time llimit.

Who is stonger?

Based on logical power-scaling, SSJ4 Goku stomps.

Yea, I also go with SSJ4 Goku. He went through a whole additional series worth of power increases.

SSJ4 wins and easily

God Goku stalemated someone who had the power to shed a Galaxy in an instant. Don't see how SS4 is winning this.

Just noticed something. Goku during his fight against Android 17 not only punched him across the planet, he was slapping multiples of blast out of the air that circled earth in no time and he did it casually. FTL?

IIRC people calced that to be mid relativistic, maybe higher.

Originally posted by carver9
God Goku stalemated someone who had the power to shed a Galaxy in an instant. Don't see how SS4 is winning this.

Agreed.

I literally read the Android saga earlier this week on a whim, when did that even happen?

He's talking about the Super 17 fight in GT

Also, Beerus or Beers or whatever you want to call him was never said to be a galaxy buster in the actual goddamn movie, only in the trailer which greatly contradicts said movie

It was only Solar System in the subbed and dubbed, right?

Yup, just that

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I literally read the Android saga earlier this week on a whim, when did that even happen?

We're talking about GT here.

Originally posted by carver9
Just noticed something. Goku during his fight against Android 17 not only punched him across the planet, he was slapping multiples of blast out of the air that circled earth in no time and he did it casually. FTL?

Um... yes.

In fact, so much FTL, that Super 17 was able to move FASTER than Goku moved with instant transmission. This makes Super 17 tier + LITERALLY faster than instantaneous. Literally faster than time itself can progress. That is Wally West Flash speed.

Originally posted by Crimson Dragoon
He's talking about the Super 17 fight in GT

Also, Beerus or Beers or whatever you want to call him was never said to be a galaxy buster in the actual goddamn movie, only in the trailer which greatly contradicts said movie

You're talking about what Whiss said. Supreme Kai said he wondered how many galaxies Bills would destroy when he came out this time, and Bills said he would renew the entire "Shihanki", which means "Quadrant". This basically is talking about a fourth of the universe. It makes sense, as the anime, and Daizenshuu put Buu level characters at universe level.

So many nopes.

He was able to react to Goku instant transmission though and his blasts was going around the planet and Goku was able to slap them out of the air...multiples of them while moving his arm at super speed.

S17 covered (in the travel clip) a tenth of the Earth in 0.2 seconds, with the following blasts moving half that speed.

Now, I don't know if this is dubbed only but during the IT tagging S17 states that due this his android ability allowing him to sense the vibrations yadda yadda he knows where Goku will appear..

..though regardless of dub error, S17 is reacting to Goku 'after' his reentry anyhow :l

Originally posted by BloodRain
S17 covered (in the travel clip) a tenth of the Earth in 0.2 seconds, with the following blasts moving half that speed.

Now, I don't know if this is dubbed only but during the IT tagging S17 states that due this his android ability allowing him to sense the vibrations yadda yadda he knows where Goku will appear..

..though regardless of dub error, S17 is reacting to Goku 'after' his reentry anyhow :l

More than a 10th of Earth.

Lol...Android 17 would still have to turn in the spot Goku would appear at. It's not like he was already turned in that direction before Goku teleported which means he reacted to Goku instantaneous movement.

No, in total he traveled further than that, but in the scene where he bolts across as a yellow flash, he's only covering a tenth. All needed coupled with the timeframe.

....That means he would have to move quicker than Gokus own physical movement post-entry :l Both times Goku appears /then/ and only then does S17 begin to act. If you hit someone /after/ they teleport, you're not reacting to teleportation.

No, it's akin to aimdodging, you know, like moving out of the way of a bullet before it's fired

Who gives a f**k? Goku wins.