Widow/Hawkeye/Rumlow vs Team Arrow

Originally posted by FrothByte
You have to take in context though. All those awesome shots that Hawkeye does? He made them against mostly inanimate objects that weren't actively trying to dodge his arrows.

Awesome shot made against the Hellicarrier? Yeah, hellicarrier wasn't trying to dodge him. Awesome shots made against the chitauri sleds? Yeah, those sleds weren't trying to dodge him, heck they weren't even attacking him.

So which targets did Hawkeye shoot at that were actively trying to evade his arrows? Black Widow and Loki, both times Hawkeye was unable to hit his targets.

Oliver Queen never missed hitting inanimate targets. Those few times that he did miss, it was against opponents that were fighting him, shooting at him and actively trying to avoid his shots. And guess what, Oliver also evaded getting hit by opponent's arrows. He even shoots his opponent's arrows out of mid-flight.

Hawkeye has a better shooting feat in his hellicarrier shot. Unfortunately, Clint won't be shooting at big, hovering inanimate objects here. Oliver Queen has the better feats in using archery during a fight, and that's what's going to count here.

Do you remember hawkeye in the battle of New York? Those chitauri sleds may not have been actively paying attention to hawkeye, but at the speed they were traveling... at least 100 mph. For hawkeye to shoot a chitauri, one that was traveling 100 mph in a spaceship, without even looking its tremendous.

Also, black widow and Loki are 100 times greater than everyone GA has fought, with the exception of Slade.

Seriously though, targets inanimate or not, it's obvious hawkeye is a more precise shooter than Oliver.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Do you remember hawkeye in the battle of New York? Those chitauri sleds may not have been actively paying attention to hawkeye, but at the speed they were traveling... at least 100 mph. For hawkeye to shoot a chitauri, one that was traveling 100 mph in a spaceship, without even looking its tremendous.

Also, black widow and Loki are 100 times greater than everyone GA has fought, with the exception of Slade.

Seriously though, targets inanimate or not, it's obvious hawkeye is a more precise shooter than Oliver.

Still doesn't change the fact that Hawkeye has never hit a target that was actively trying to avoid getting hit. Oliver has.

Those sleds might have been going fast, but so what? I've already mentioned that Oliver has shot arrows out of the air, arrows that were shot at him. Arrows on regular hunting bows usually travel at 300 fps. That's faster than your 100 mph. And that's just your normal modern-day hunting bow. Oliver and his opponents probably use bows that have more power.

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Well Team Marvel still wins via 2/3. Now if folks like Merlin or Nessa were in this thread then I'd give it to team Arrow.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well Team Marvel still wins via 2/3. Now if folks like Merlin or Nessa were in this thread then I'd give it to team Arrow.

The sniper on the roof is the key player in this game. Whoever takes out the archer in the roof of the opposing team will have a huge advantage. So if Hawkeye is taken out (and I believe he will be) then team arrow will have the advantage.

Because although I consider Rumlow > Diggle and BW > BC, I do think they're close enough in skill to keep the fight going for some time.

Besides, it's not like Merlin is greatly more skilled than Oliver. They're very close in skill, with Merline slightly better.

Originally posted by FrothByte
The sniper on the roof is the key player in this game. Whoever takes out the archer in the roof of the opposing team will have a huge advantage. So if Hawkeye is taken out (and I believe he will be) then team arrow will have the advantage.

Because although I consider Rumlow > Diggle and BW > BC, I do think they're close enough in skill to keep the fight going for some time.

Besides, it's not like Merlin is greatly more skilled than Oliver. They're very close in skill, with Merline slightly better.

And if Hawkeye is taken out first, then that could also lead to Team Arrow having the advantage.