Most important factor in Speedblitz ?

Started by DARTH POWER3 pages

Skill, superior pre-cog, mobility, agility all far more important than speed.

Sidious doesn't move like the Flash Lol. In fact I saw him fighting Windu and Yoda at pretty normal speeds. Even against Maul and Opress(animation) he was no where close to invisible.

I mean all Jedi are continuously blocking laser blasts which are much much faster than Sidious could ever move in his wildest dreams.

Skill and superior pre-cog 100%

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Skill, superior pre-cog, mobility, agility all far more important than speed.

Sidious doesn't move like the Flash Lol. In fact I saw him fighting Windu and Yoda at pretty normal speeds. Even against Maul and Opress(animation) he was no where close to invisible.

I mean all Jedi are continuously blocking laser blasts which are much much faster than Sidious could ever move in his wildest dreams.

Except that Sidious has deflected hordes of blaser bolts from droids along with Plagueis and never got hit 👆.

Originally posted by carthage
Except that Sidious has deflected hordes of blaser bolts from droids along with Plagueis and never got hit 👆.

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Which would means Sidious would have to actually outpace the blaster bolts by a pretty good margin. In fact, Sidious had to run circles around Plagueis in order to protect Plagueis from being hit.

DP's own logic defies him, unless he thinks Viszla is faster than blaster bolts considering he managed to land physical blows on Maul whereas blaster bolts were easily deflected and evaded by him.

The Son of Mortis speedblitzes via squashing your throat, we didn't see any lightsaber skill from him.

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Relating to the 200 droid feat:

On Hypori they were the prey, standing back-to-back in their black zeyd-cloth hooded robes at the center of concentric rings of droids, retrofitted by Baktoid Armor to function as combat automata. Two hundred programmed assailants—bipedal, treaded, some levitated by antigrav generators—armed with a variety of weapons, ranging from hand blasters to short-barreled burst-rifles. Plagueis hadn't allowed his young apprentice to wield a lightsaber until a few years earlier, but Sidious was brandishing one now, self-constructed of phrik alloy and aurodium, and powered by a synthetic crystal. Made for delicate, long-fingered hands—as much a work of art as a weapon—the lightsaber thrummed as he waved the blade from side to side in front of him.

"Every weapon, manufactured by whatever species, has its own properties and peculiarities," Plagueis was saying, his own blade angled toward the ferrocrete floor of the battledome's fabricated cityscape, as if to light a fuse. "Range, penetrating power, refresh rate... In some instances your life might depend on your ability to focus on the weapon rather than the wielder. You must train yourself to identify a weapon instantly—whether it's a product of BlasTech or Merr-Sonn, Tenloss or Prax—so that you will know where to position yourself, and the several ways to best deflect a well-aimed bolt."

Plagueis put his words into action as the first ring of droids began to converge on them, staggering the attack and triggering bursts at random. Orbiting Sidious, the Muun's blade warded off every volley, returning the bolts to their sources, or deflecting them into the facades of the faux buildings surrounding them or into other droids. At other times Plagueis made no attempt to redirect the attacks, but simply torqued his rangy body, allowing the bolts to miss him by centimeters. Around the two Sith, the automata collapsed one after the next, gushing lubricants from holed reservoirs or exploding in a hail of alloy parts, until all were heaped on the ferrocrete floor.

"The next ring is yours," Plagueis said.

Rugged, uninhabited Hypori belonged to the Techno Union, whose Skakoan foreman, Wat Tambor, owed his seat in the Republic Senate to Damask Holdings. In exchange, the bionic humanoid had made Hypori available as a training ground for members of the Echani Sun Guard and provided the necessary battle droids. Calling in another favor, Hego Damask had requested a private session in the fabricated cityscape, so that Plagueis and his apprentice could be free to employ lightsabers—though only for the purpose of deflecting bolts rather than dismemberment or penetration.

When it came Sidious's turn to demonstrate his skill, Plagueis spoke continuously from behind him, adding distraction to the distinct possibility of inadvertent disintegration.

"A being trained in the killing arts doesn't wait for you to acquire him as a target, or establish him or herself as an opponent, as if in some martial arts contest. Your reactions must be instantaneous and nothing less than lethal, for you are a Sith Lord, and will be marked for death."

The droids continued to converge, ring after ring of them, until the floor was piled high with smoking husks. Plagueis issued a voice command that brought the onslaught to an abrupt end and deactivated his lightsaber. The pinging of cooling weapons, the hiss of escaping gas, the unsteady whir of failing servomotors punctuated the sudden silence. Alloy limbs spasmed and photoreceptors winked out, surrendering their eerie glow. The recycled air was rotten with the smell of fried circuitry.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Skill, superior pre-cog, mobility, agility all far more important than speed.

Sidious doesn't move like the Flash Lol. In fact I saw him fighting Windu and Yoda at pretty normal speeds. Even against Maul and Opress(animation) he was no where close to invisible.

I mean all Jedi are continuously blocking laser blasts which are much much faster than Sidious could ever move in his wildest dreams.

Yeah agility is also important, but I've always considered agility as part of speed.

Originally posted by Marco1907
Yeah agility is also important, but I've always considered agility as part of speed.

Mobility and Agility basically is the way they use their speed.

But what they don't do is simply blitz around at invisible speeds like The Flash.

SW is a visual medium first and foremost. So anyone arguing some kind of invisible speedblitz can post a video first to prove it. Novels are just fill of hyperbole.

ag·ile adjective \ˈa-jəl, -ˌjī(-&#601😉l\
: able to move quickly and easily

Agility is speed.

Also, Sidious didn't speedblitz anyone in the film. The B-team clearly wanted to die. 👆

Exactly. And novels are only valid when describing Marek. Otherwise, it's basically not even Legends Canon.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Mobility and Agility basically is the way they use their speed.

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That's why Kai Hudorra said that Vader is ''slow'', clearly Vader has good reflexes (even in Purge) but he lacks mobility and agility too much.

Vader is a special case because he can't move his fat ass very quickly, so he can't capitalize on his reflexes. If a character is quick as shit but has poor reaction-time and attack speed he still can't really blitz because his arms will be moving too slow to capitalize on his body's speed. The anti-Vader.

Even then, it all comes down to speed being more important than skill. / shrugs

Originally posted by Nephthys
Hmmmm, which is more important for a SPEEDblitz? Skill or speed? Thats a toughy.

Vader isnt fat Neme, stop bodyshaming Anakin

I saw those jowls when he took the mask off. ****ing porker.

Originally posted by Marco1907
The Son of Mortis speedblitzes via squashing your throat, we didn't see any lightsaber skill from him.

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Pre Visla speedblitzes via unarmed combo. 😄
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Originally posted by Arhael
Pre Visla speedblitzes via unarmed combo. 😄

Yes clearly he moved faster than Kenobi could perceive with that movement.

Vizsla is another example for skill necessity in speedblitz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh0spaxtvTU&feature=player_detailpage#t=174

He was using pure skill.

Vizsla doesn't have Force augmentation. He's not speedblitzing.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
He's not speedblitzing.

But he did with that fodders, that should prove that skill is also important as speed in lightsaber blitz.