Jensaarai1: Darth Malgus vs Obi-wan Kenobi

Originally posted by carthage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo0sQVAlGrY
Youtube videos are nonsense.

Youtube videos are AWESOME! They are a lot of fun to watch. Do you even know what "fun" means?

Originally posted by carthage
The types of conclusions they reach are literally based on nothing more than their own insights as opposed to what actually happened/feats

So what, they're not allowed to have their own opinions?

Originally posted by ILS
Oh and apparently Plo Koon's moral standing of seeing things in black and white translates to combat.

Yes. He sees things clearly. The fact that the makers go into depth like that is what makes them so enjoyable.

Originally posted by Q99
He does explain his reasoning pretty well, so even if it is opinion, you see why his has X opinion and what areas he misjudged.

Precisely. Thank you.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Btw, he brings up the armament of each character like it matters, as if it's going to have some impact on the fight just because one character has better grip of their lightsaber then the other.

Again, it's FUN that he compares the armaments. I love that he goes into detail like that. Listening to descriptions of lightsabres is part of the enjoyment.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
I haven't watched much of his videos

Clearly.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
For example, Yoda is not a good saber duelist because he mastered every form and has to adopt elements from other forms to compensate for what his main form lacks? What? In other words, he's saying Yoda's a poor duelist by proving he's an exceptional one without even realizing that's what he's saying.

He has NEVER claimed Yoda was a poor duellist. He simply feels that Yoda is over-rated and with good reason.

The point he has always made is that Yoda's skills are just textbook perfect applications of Form. Yoda hasn't really refined or personalised them in any way, not like say Mace Windu refined Juyo to come up with his own personalised style.

Again, this is NOT saying Yoda is a poor duellist. It is simply acknowledging his limitations.

Heck, Jensaarai1 has given Yoda the victory against Plagueis and Satele Shan. Clearly he's fair.

You know what else is fun? Not having my ears bleed from the sheer volume of retardation going through them.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Clearly.

He has NEVER claimed Yoda was a poor duellist. He simply feels that Yoda is over-rated and with good reason.

The point he has always made is that Yoda's skills are just textbook perfect applications of Form. Yoda hasn't really refined or personalised them in any way, not like say Mace Windu refined Juyo to come up with his own personalised style.

That's not a good reason IMO. The standards are the standards because they work. The only reasons to stray from the standards are if something is truly new and innovative or to compensate for some sort of weakness.

He used the choreography from Attack of the Clones as part of his argument on why Yoda isn't very skilled. That's reaching for straws.

I do watch his videos, but I do get annoyed sometimes because it seems like he'll find some minor flaw in a character and explode it out of proportion.

Originally posted by red8
I do watch his videos, but I do get annoyed sometimes because it seems like he'll find some minor flaw in a character and explode it out of proportion.

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I remember one time watching one of his vids and he said that because the way Yoda was blocking Dooku's saber, all Dooku had to do was push forward and kill Yoda.

Originally posted by Q99
Personally, I find his videos hit and miss. He does explain his reasoning pretty well, so even if it is opinion, you see why his has X opinion and what areas he misjudged.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
He has NEVER claimed Yoda was a poor duellist. He simply feels that Yoda is over-rated and with good reason.

The point he has always made is that Yoda's skills are just textbook perfect applications of Form. Yoda hasn't really refined or personalised them in any way, not like say Mace Windu refined Juyo to come up with his own personalised style.

Again, this is NOT saying Yoda is a poor duellist. It is simply acknowledging his limitations.

Heck, Jensaarai1 has given Yoda the victory against Plagueis and Satele Shan. Clearly he's fair.

His point is simply illogical, and does not describe someone with just "textbook perfection" of each form. In order for Yoda to master all saber forms to such an extent that he can incorporate any form in a saber duel to compensate for what his main form lacks, makes him an exceptional duelist. It suggests that Yoda's mastery over each form extends far beyond than just knowing the mechanics of each form, but skilled enough to incorporate them into his main form in the middle of combat. That's mastery at it's finest, and you can't get any better than that. That's how one refines his own style; it's how Vader refined his form: by adopting elements from multiple forms to create his own unique way of fighting. Implying that's a limitation doesn't make any sense and is an attempt to lowball, and shows he doesn't know what he's talking about, and it's most definitely isn't explaining how Yoda is overrated. The guy asserts that Yoda isn't talented enough to refine his form by basically proving that Yoda did refine his form.

The mechanics of juyo and vapaad are nearly identical. The only difference is mindset. Mastering vapaad is basically mastering one's inner darkness and using it without falling victim to it and succumbing to the dark side. Not to mention it allows Mace to feed on the rage of his opponents. Mace didn't refine the mechanics/sequences of juyo. He made it more easy for him to use by mastering and controlling his negative emotions. Mastering juyo, which is an incorporation of multiple forms into one, is what shows Mace's lightsaber skills; mastering vapaad shows his strong willpower and force mastery.

Originally posted by chilled monkey

He has NEVER claimed Yoda was a poor duellist. He simply feels that Yoda is over-rated and with good reason.

The point he has always made is that Yoda's skills are just textbook perfect applications of Form. Yoda hasn't really refined or personalised them in any way, not like say Mace Windu refined Juyo to come up with his own personalised style.

Again, this is NOT saying Yoda is a poor duellist. It is simply acknowledging his limitations.

Heck, Jensaarai1 has given Yoda the victory against Plagueis and Satele Shan. Clearly he's fair.

Maybe jensaari has some point on this. I mean, surely Yoda's skill with soresu is not Obi-Wan's level (probably) nor his skill with makashi not on Dooku's level, nor djem-so etc.

Still Yoda's prefered style was Ataru, and he is using that for compensate his weakness of mobility.

Master Yoda's Ataru is also an answer to weakness: the limitations of reach and mobility imposed by his stature and his age.

Nevertheless, he was the best ataru practitioner in the whole series.