Originally posted by Sin I AM
Care to speak up or troll. I gotta free lunch period.
And don't come up "he should but he doesn't". Mjolnir has never been simply a tool to channel Thor's power. It has never been described as such.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Um no. It's been displayed that when Odin is displaced or times when Thor remembers his powers he can do everything mjolnir can do. He's already shown flight, godblast. weather control sans equipment. He's half an elder god for christsakes. We know he has earth manipulation but he never uses it. Mjolnir is jus a plot device to keep him grounded.
You have NO CANON to back up this stance.
NONE.
Admit you're wrong or I WILL CRUSH YOU!!!
Originally posted by abhilegend
Either you have read no Thor comics or listened to Rage too much. Since when can Thor absorb energy without mjolnir? Or transmute matter? Or soul suck? Or create portals? Teleport? And that's just off my mind.And don't come up "he should but he doesn't". Mjolnir has never been simply a tool to channel Thor's power. It has never been described as such.
Thor does have some innate powers.
But if Mjolnir was nothing more then a focus, it wouldn't power up other characters independent of Thor, which it has. (Bill and Masterson, for starters. And I guess this female Thor I never read about, and probably never will because 5 minutes of my life reading something I'm not interested in is 5 minutes too many..)
Basically what im saying is the powers is innate. It's within his ability to produce the effect as seen in future timelines however due to inexperience or lack of thorforce or whatever he doesn't show it often enough (self propelled flight, god blast) or hasn't shown it unless in future/alt timelines (energy manip) imo when odin created the hammer the incantation that was inscribed on it meant that whoever held the power had thors power too whether he displayed it or not. But that's just my opinion
Originally posted by Sin I AMOdin powers the exact same as Thors 😱. Thor teleported with mjolnir 3 months ago for crying out loud, The only statement you have said that is correct is Thor flying, Thor was shown to fly using the cosmic winds or soemthing of that nature on-panel to fly in the god-butcher story line however he didn't appear to be great at it grant it that was young thor
Says who? That's his natural progression. Odin has the exact same abilities to a greater degree. Thor has said himself that mjolnir is a limiter. A crutch. He can god blast without it, he can fly without it, hell i haven't seen Thor teleport WITH mjolnir in ages yet i know he can do it. The other powere you named will come with progression and less reliance on that hammer as has been shown in multiple future timelines.
Originally posted by Sin I AMThe Thorforce is the Odinpower that King Thor renamed whatever you want to call it, the power has nothing to do with Thor's innate abilites
Basically what im saying is the powers is innate. It's within his ability to produce the effect as seen in future timelines however due to inexperience or lack of thorforce or whatever he doesn't show it often enough (self propelled flight, god blast) or hasn't shown it unless in future/alt timelines (energy manip) imo when odin created the hammer the incantation that was inscribed on it meant that whoever held the power had thors power too whether he displayed it or not. But that's just my opinion
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Basically what im saying is the powers is innate. It's within his ability to produce the effect as seen in future timelines however due to inexperience or lack of thorforce or whatever he doesn't show it often enough (self propelled flight, god blast) or hasn't shown it unless in future/alt timelines (energy manip) imo when odin created the hammer the incantation that was inscribed on it meant that whoever held the power had thors power too whether he displayed it or not. But that's just my opinion
TRASH!
You. Are. Wrong.
ADMIT IT NOW!!!!
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
When Odin cast Thor out of Asgard, he tethered Thor's power to Mjolnir, hence why others are able to weild Thor's power if they're worthy.
If that's the case, that's more like Krato's power getting dumped into the sword of olympus.
Yeah, it's Thor's power in the hammer, but he can't tap it unless he's holding the thing.
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Odin powers the exact same as Thors 😱. Thor teleported with mjolnir 3 months ago for crying out loud, The only statement you have said that is correct is Thor flying, Thor was shown to fly using the cosmic winds or soemthing of that nature on-panel to fly in the god-butcher story line however he didn't appear to be great at it grant it that was young thor
Sigh. Look what im saying is that i believe it's innate as shown when he ages and gets less reliant on his hammers and actually starts using his esoteric abilities. As he gets more and more experienced he's able to do more without it. Not seeing how you're not getting it
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Basically what im saying is the powers is innate. It's within his ability to produce the effect as seen in future timelines however due to inexperience or lack of thorforce or whatever he doesn't show it often enough (self propelled flight, god blast) or hasn't shown it unless in future/alt timelines (energy manip) imo when odin created the hammer the incantation that was inscribed on it meant that whoever held the power had thors power too whether he displayed it or not. But that's just my opinion
Not sure if you're serious or just trolling. If serious, you gotta read some thor comics and learn the difference between Thor and Odin's power.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Sigh. Look what im saying is that i believe it's innate as shown when he ages and gets less reliant on his hammers and actually starts using his esoteric abilities. As he gets more and more experienced he's able to do more without it. Not seeing how you're not getting it
FFS, he is already thousands of years old. He could do those things in future because he had odinforce, not because those are his innate powers.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So you are using alternate futures where Thor used odinforce to do such things to prove he can do those things on his own without mjolnir?Not sure if you're serious or just trolling. If serious, you gotta read some thor comics and learn the difference between Thor and Odin's power.
facepalmFFS, he is already thousands of years old. He could do those things in future because he had odinforce, not because those are his innate powers.
Meh toe may toe, toe mah toe.
It's irrelevant anyway as he hasn't done anything yet without his arm.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Sigh. Look what im saying is that i believe it's innate as shown when he ages and gets less reliant on his hammers and actually starts using his esoteric abilities. As he gets more and more experienced he's able to do more without it. Not seeing how you're not getting it
🙄 We have seen old king Thor that is about as old as experienced and as old as he is going to get. And he has not done anything you say not even close.
Also we haven seen old king thor have to relay on mjolnir when he was no longer able to access the odinpower.
So your point has no grounds on any feats or fact but only your "idea" of Thor having a powerset he yet to use/have
Originally posted by DarkOdin
🙄 We have seen old king Thor that is about as old as experienced and as old as he is going to get. And he has not done anything you say not even close.Also we haven seen old king thor have to relay on mjolnir when he was no longer able to access the odinpower.
So your point has no grounds on any feats or fact but only your "idea" of Thor having a powerset he yet to use/have
Old king thor powers were diminished after all those years of fighting tho
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Sigh. Look what im saying is that i believe it's innate as shown when he ages and gets less reliant on his hammers and actually starts using his esoteric abilities. As he gets more and more experienced he's able to do more without it. Not seeing how you're not getting it
I DEMAND YOU POST THE FOLLOWING.
I, SIN I AM, admit that I am wrong about Mjolnir in relation to Thor's abilities!
I ALSO HUMBLY ACKNOWLEDGE LORDOFBROOKLYN'S SUPERIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THOR'S CANON!
You have 24 Hours to OBEY and post this message.