End of DB Goku vs Ironman

Originally posted by BloodRain
Reactions.. literally just said it. That added to those'ftl feats. Lol that Roshi scene is nothing. In that 0.2 seconds they each made around 20-25 separate movements. An average human can make 1 movement in 0.2 seconds. That only clocks in at 250m/s.. pushing to mach 1 at the very best.

The Goku who can who would have to charge to get close to planetary? Even if his full blast is the win-weapon, that charge, especially after seeing normal ki attacks, will be enough for StarStark to analyse the attack. That's if the bulk isn't absorbed.

Tbh I rank their credibility above those in this thread, all I need. So that's a few things that take him down sorted.

😐 Are you really lowballing the Roshi showing? They were TAUNTING each other during this as well along with having conversation and fighting. You honestly can't believe the stuff you say about DBZ sometimes, can you?

Who said anything about charge attacks? A standard blast from Goku should be able to destroy Ironman. Do you honestly believe it takes planetary power to stop Ironman because if so, I have a load of scans to show you. Hell, on average, it doesn't take planetary power to stop the best of Heralds.

Stark isn't analyzing anything from Goku, someone that could punch him 20 times before he realized he was in a fight.

Who credibility because of they are from the anime forum, it's rare that they read anything on American comics.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Reactions.. literally just said it. That added to those'ftl feats. Lol that Roshi scene is nothing. In that 0.2 seconds they each made around 20-25 separate movements. An average human can make 1 movement in 0.2 seconds. That only clocks in at 250m/s.. pushing to mach 1 at the very best.

I'm more impressed by Roshi's casual machinegun bullet catch, personally. Because it's one of few concrete speed examples in the series.

Never thought I'd see a threat arguing Ironman's super speed.

Yeah, his armor flies insanely fast, and yes, his modern armor's enhance his reflex's to such heights that Spidey and Iron Fist can't really blitz him anymore... But to read this thread, you'd think he could blitz Thor, who has much better straight line movement feats, but himself isn't anywhere near the lightspeed. (Notwithstanding feats like stopping Quicksilver when the Avengers were torturing Loki, but that's a pretty obvious outlier...)

Originally posted by carver9
😐 Are you really lowballing the Roshi showing? They were TAUNTING each other during this as well along with having conversation and fighting. You honestly can't believe the stuff you say about DBZ sometimes, can you?

Who said anything about charge attacks? A standard blast from Goku should be able to destroy Ironman. Do you honestly believe it takes planetary power to stop Ironman because if so, I have a load of scans to show you. Hell, on average, it doesn't take planetary power to stop the best of Heralds.

Stark isn't analyzing anything from Goku, someone that could punch him 20 times before he realized he was in a fight.

Who credibility because of they are from the anime forum, it's rare that they read anything on American comics.

Honestly. I'll show you the play-by-play, so if you find something you think is wrong please share:
Roshi did max 12 movements, though some would take much longer than a punch, so 20; Running 3, kick 1, tongue 1, pull back 1, "I'm gonna go with this" 2, announce game 2, cock back 1, throw scissors 1, point 1, "gave me an opening" 2, jump kick 2, landing away 3.

Doing 20 movements in 0.2 seconds means 0.01 seconds per movement. For a 1 meter punch that's 100m/s.

You'll notice that I did not include the planning period. Why? Because Krillen states that the planning stage took 0.2 seconds. At this point I can only assume the action period was around the same time as the thinking. And don't ask such rhetorical questions where on the same page I found that info from, you were calling this "almost damn near a nano second feat", which would require 200,000,000 movements in 0.2 seconds..

So let me know where the fault in this is.

I'm saying that at this point his casual blasts didn't hold that much of a punch. Tbh I'm having trouble remembering Goku using any casual ki attacks that weren't the KMHMH at this point. Even so, comparing to Piccolo's casual attacks leads to this train of thought.

Why not? At this stage he's been calced to be Mach 89.

NF, so all verses. Where people may not like their calcs, the known credible ones always give reliable verse info.

Goku wins. Cmon now

Goku, even Roshi at full power is a moon buster. Pretty sure End of DB Goku is stronger than that.