Originally posted by Nephthys
Bane having vulnerabilities doesn't mean Malgus is good enough to exploit them or beat him. Malgus also isn't a tank with no weak points and vulnerabilities. Bane is just better than Malgus is. With a nexus amp Malgus has no hope.
Bane doesn't have advantage over Malgus in skill, power and experience; factors that would matter.
Also, a nexus setting would beneficial to both Sith Lords.
Kas'im isn't a competent swordsman now? Bane hid from the galaxy to enact the rule of two, that's why he didn't fight much. He was head and shoulders above anyone from his era, barring Zannah though.
Bane's lightning is superior to Malgus' (disintegrating multiple people), Bane's TK is better than Malgus' (destroying the Lehon Temple, smashing a 30-meter tall blast door casually, disintegrating a dozen technobeasts) and Bane is faster ( too fast for a room of sith to see, looking like he's wielding a dozen lightsabers at once, the rain feat) and as or more skilled and strong than Malgus. He's Malgus' better in almost every way.
The OP specifically said that only Bane is benefiting from the nexus. And he gets the orbalisks if he needs it.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Kas'im isn't a competent swordsman now?
Originally posted by Nephthys
Bane hid from the galaxy to enact the rule of two, that's why he didn't fight much. He was head and shoulders above anyone from his era, barring Zannah though.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Bane's lightning is superior to Malgus' (disintegrating multiple people),
Originally posted by Nephthys
Bane's TK is better than Malgus' (destroying the Lehon Temple,
However, if you are interested in a d*** measuring contest such as this one then one of the Malgus's opponents managed to collapse two buildings around his position and you know what became of him.
Contrary to popular belief, collapsing a structure isn't a colossal task. You damage the foundations or exploit a weak spot and it falls apart.
Originally posted by Nephthys
smashing a 30-meter tall blast door casually, disintegrating a dozen technobeasts)
Originally posted by Nephthys
and Bane is faster ( too fast for a room of sith to see, looking like he's wielding a dozen lightsabers at once, the rain feat) and as or more skilled and strong than Malgus.
Wielding a dozen lightsabers is same as swinging a lightsaber in blur and vice versa. These are lame narratives to appeal to readers, logically they are vague and doesn't prove much.
Originally posted by Nephthys
He's Malgus' better in almost every way.
Originally posted by Nephthys
The OP specifically said that only Bane is benefiting from the nexus. And he gets the orbalisks if he needs it.
Nexus may boost stamina and effectiveness but it doesn't guarantees victory against a superior foe. Malgus consistently kicked @ss of lot of Jedi in the Jedi Temple, a nexus of the light side.
Orbalisks Bane will get his @ss handed to him by Malgus's powers as well.
Bane's best chance of victory is with his lightsaber dueling skills. However, Malgus can handle him even on this front.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Kas'im certainly is. However, both of us are aware of the fact that how this contest ended; Bane got lucky with the setting.
Bane was still beating Kas'im in a straight duel until Kas'im exploited a weakness that he had specifically created in Bane.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Bane didn't had much competition. Malgus however....
Bane defeated Kas'im, the greatest fighter of the Sith and probably of the age. Githany laughed at the suggestion that anyone could take Bane after he'd defeated Kas'im. He also laughed off Kaan's attempts to mentally-influence him, despite Kaan having very powerful telepathy. And he casually ragdolled the master of the Korriban academy. Just because he faced less competition than Malgus doesn't mean that he wasn't challenged by the greatest Sith or his era and was solidly above them while still far from his peak.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Disintegrating defenseless people with lightning is now something to boast about? Malgus overwhelmed defenses of fully prepped powerful Force-users, and could burn them to ash. Now this is something to boast about.
Yes, it is. It's among the most powerful showings of lightning there is, above Malgus' showings. Bane has also overwhelmed the defenses of Force users btw, despite them being empowered by Battle Meditation (Farfalla). And Malgus never burned anyone to ash, don't make shit up.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
That Temple was weakened from bombardment event and was logically far from its top condition.However, if you are interested in a d*** measuring contest such as this one then one of the Malgus's opponents managed to collapse two buildings around his position and you know what became of him.
Contrary to popular belief, collapsing a structure isn't a colossal task. You damage the foundations or exploit a weak spot and it falls apart.
Theres no indication it was weakened. It stood for a further 2000 years after that bombardment, without any damage from age, I think it was fine.
The Temple of the Ancients is far larger than those buildings would have been.
Saying that just makes Malgus look less impressive, so I doubt you want to go down that road. Especially since Bane did neither of those things and still obliterated the temple in his weakest incarnation.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
As if these are beyond Malgus's power? These are childish arguments, Neph.
Maybe they are, maybe they're not. Malgus has never disintegrated anything with the Force so you've got nothing to suggest he could. And I think you underestimate how big 30 meters is:
It was 20 meters wide too btw. Bane made it explode inward with his palm.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Malgus have handled "unbelievably fast" individuals.Wielding a dozen lightsabers is same as swinging a lightsaber in blur and vice versa. These are lame narratives to appeal to readers, logically they are vague and doesn't prove much.
No one as fast as Bane. And Leneer isn't as strong and powerful as Bane anyway.
And people accuse me of double standards! I'll be sure to remember you said that every time you bust out a feat of so and so being "supremely powerful" or something. Just a vague, lame narrative to appeal to the readers. 🙄
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
He isn't.
You've shown me nothing to suggest otherwise.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Its a strange logic.Nexus may boost stamina and effectiveness but it doesn't guarantees victory against a superior foe. Malgus consistently kicked @ss of lot of Jedi in the Jedi Temple, a nexus of the light side.
Orbalisks Bane will get his @ss handed to him by Malgus's powers as well.
Bane's best chance of victory is with his lightsaber dueling skills. However, Malgus can handle him even on this front.
A nexus can be drawn upon to increase power. With it Bane will destroy Malgus. He doesn't need it to defeat him though. He'd handle him in the Force with his superior lightning and TK and overwhelm him in a lightsaber duel.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Bane was still beating Kas'im in a straight duel until Kas'im exploited a weakness that he had specifically created in Bane.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Bane defeated Kas'im, the greatest fighter of the Sith and probably of the age. Githany laughed at the suggestion that anyone could take Bane after he'd defeated Kas'im. He also laughed off Kaan's attempts to mentally-influence him, despite Kaan having very powerful telepathy. And he casually ragdolled the master of the Korriban academy. Just because he faced less competition than Malgus doesn't mean that he wasn't challenged by the greatest Sith or his era and was solidly above them while still far from his peak.
Malgus, on the other hand, had to contend with some of the high quality Sith in history to prove his mettle and he did. He even had a shot at becoming the freaking Emperor and this is really really big.
Unfortunately for you, Bane haven't been tested in ways like Malgus. Even Darth Sidious perceived Malgus as the greatest warrior in galactic history and this guy is really cocky and arrogant at judging others.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes, it is. It's among the most powerful showings of lightning there is, above Malgus' showings.
You understand the difference between the defenseless and defenses of a powerful Force-user?
If Malgus can overwhelm the defenses of a powerful Force-user with lightning and eliminate such a target, it can be reasoned that he would absolutely obliterate a defenseless being with same power.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Bane has also overwhelmed the defenses of Force users btw, despite them being empowered by Battle Meditation (Farfalla). And Malgus never burned anyone to ash, don't make shit up.
Making shit up? Malgus absolutely ruined and mortally wounded the powerhouse with lightning who collapsed two buildings around him in an attempt to kill him. In addition, Malgus badly injured/burned Leener with lightning but decided not to kill her/reduce her to ash.
You stop manipulating known facts.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Theres no indication it was weakened. It stood for a further 2000 years after that bombardment, without any damage from age, I think it was fine.
Bane managed to collapse the structure with a power that couldn't even budge Kas'im. Think.
Originally posted by Nephthys
The Temple of the Ancients is far larger than those buildings would have been.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Saying that just makes Malgus look less impressive, so I doubt you want to go down that road. Especially since Bane did neither of those things and still obliterated the temple in his weakest incarnation.
I am just pointing out that even the benchmark of collapsing structures haven't proved as a sufficient indicator of strength to take on Malgus even at his lowest and most vulnerable condition.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Maybe they are, maybe they're not. Malgus has never disintegrated anything with the Force so you've got nothing to suggest he could. And I think you underestimate how big 30 meters is:It was 20 meters wide too btw. Bane made it explode inward with his palm.
I am just pointing out that the feats which you are describing are not beyond the capability of a Force-user of the caliber of Malgus. Just because Malgus didn't collapse a building, doesn't means that he cannot do so or even defeat a Force-user capable of doing so. Your haven't learned much from The Third Lesson.
Originally posted by Nephthys
No one as fast as Bane. And Leneer isn't as strong and powerful as Bane anyway.
Leener seems to be more then a match for a Sith Lord of Bane's standards. She did really well against Malgus for a while.
Originally posted by Nephthys
And people accuse me of double standards! I'll be sure to remember you said that every time you bust out a feat of so and so being "supremely powerful" or something. Just a vague, lame narrative to appeal to the readers. 🙄
The accolade such as "supremely powerful" in an Encyclopedia Medium implies that the referred Force-user is stupendously powerful in galactic history or one of the most powerful in galactic history or among the top-dogs of galactic history of the top-dog of the galactic history. All of these terms have same meaning.
However, terms such as wielding 12 lightsabers at once, spinning the lightsaber in blur of motion or faster and vice versa are really vague at evaluating speed related limits of a character in question.
Originally posted by Nephthys
You've shown me nothing to suggest otherwise.
Originally posted by NephthysA nexus can be drawn upon to increase power. With it Bane will destroy Malgus. He doesn't need it to defeat him though. He'd handle him in the Force with his superior lightning and TK and overwhelm him in a lightsaber duel.
Bane will destroy Malgus is a fairytale that may help you sleep well at night. Malgus can certainly handle threats on level of Bane.