Undecided on either Hulk or Thor for the Avengers. With a switch of his attitude Hulk can turn from Kuhl to WWH, all the way to WBH. It depends on which one you want to choose but all of them are above Herald level.
Thor, a non holding back Thor is scary and if he's too pissed, that warrior madness can come out. I'm sticking with Thor here just to make things interesting and to fall away from a long debate with Hulk.
For the JLA we have Superman. Absolute beast. Have every physical power a hero would want along with a tactical brain.
We have Martian Manhunter as well. The most versatile on the team and he also possess the same abilities Superman have plus interest. An evil MM is scary as hell. I would consider him as more of a threat than anyone on the JLA. The only reason MM sucks is because of his caring personality...take that away and you have one of the most dangerous beings on the planet (look at his performance against Hal and Flash when he was possessed by the black ring. He was unstoppable).
So this is Thor vs MM.
After typing all of that Art, I'm undecided. 🙂
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Anyways, nothing short of Skyfather is stopping Starbrand.
Originally posted by carver9
Ok, Flash moves...then what?
Then puts him in the speed force.
Also, how is it self Bfr if he runs too far? OP never specified the battle locale. BFR only applies if he can't make it back to the battlefield under his own steam in good time.
IOW, throw me a few blocks away, that's BFR because I'm too lazy/unfit to make it back in under an hour. The Flash can do that in milliseconds.
A few continents away? Same thing.
Considering his speed, he could cross the earth and punch someone from the opposite end in good time.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then puts him in the speed force.
Also, how is it self Bfr if he runs too far? OP never specified the battle locale. BFR only applies if he can't make it back to the battlefield under his own steam in good time.IOW, throw me a few blocks away, that's BFR because I'm too lazy/unfit to make it back in under an hour. The Flash can do that in milliseconds.
A few continents away? Same thing.
Considering his speed, he could cross the earth and punch someone from the opposite end in good time.
He isn't budging Starbrand and if you're sent too far away from the battlefield, it's self bfr...plane and simple. Also, show me current Flash dumping someone in the speed force.
Originally posted by carver9
He isn't budging Starbrand and if you're sent too far away from the battlefield, it's self bfr...plane and simple. Also, show me current Flash dumping someone in the speed force.
How far is too far away? Plain and simple.
For example, if I threw the Atom 100m away, and he doesn't grow, that's BFR. But throw the Hulk 100m away? That's nothing.
Throw Batman to the next state? BFR. Throw Gladiator to the next state? Nothing.
So how far is too far?