The death penalty

Originally posted by riv6672
Are you for or against the death penalty?
If you're religious, does your religion's view on the death penalty match your own?

I give you the death penalty for trolling my Superman Thread! 😱

Originally posted by riv6672
You arent wrong per say, but, the endless appeals process is an issue.

This has really gotten away from religion as a topic. Just saying, thst wasnt my intent.

Well, the old testament supports the death penalty (i.e., "an eye for an eye"😉 while the new one doesn't and is more about forgiveness (i.e., "let he who is without sin cast the first stone"😉.

Yeah, i've often wondered about the discrepancy. Originally God wasnt the forgiving type.
Not being a religious expert i tend to see the old and new testaments along the same lines as the sanitizing of the Grimm fairy tales. The original purpose of the stories really being lost over time.

It's not really a discrepancy. God Himself never actually changed as He is immutable. If it weren't for His Son's sacrifice on the cross then ALL of the old testament laws would still apply. Because of Christ all the sins (both past and future) of humanity were paid for in full. Of course, people have to accept Christ (the one who paid for their sins) in order for them to be free of paying the price (eternal death by fire) for their sins. Many believe that accepting Christ requires you to willingly be baptized. I'm not sure if I agree or not with that last part though.

Ok but how does that pertain to killing/not killing?

Originally posted by riv6672
Ok but how does that pertain to killing/not killing?

I don't understand what you're asking riv. I was just replying to you saying that it was a "discrepancy". Are you saying I'm derailing the subject of the thread?

What? No.

So, old or new, God is okay with killing?
Why do many believers say the death penalty is wrong then?

Originally posted by riv6672
What? No.

So, old or new, God is okay with killing?
Why do many believers say the death penalty is wrong then?

Of course He is not okay with people murdering other people. It's a serious sin wether or not they are actually forgiven for it. You mean is He ok with executing people who deserve it? I honestly don't know. I would think that since His Son preached forgiveness and said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" that He doesn't approve of it anymore since it's virtually impossible for anybody other than Christ Himself to have never sinned in their entire lives. Those believers you're talking about may be correct in saying that it's wrong. I can't say for certain.

Thats what i'm getting at, on a per religion basis.
Is executing a murderer wrong in the eyes of god(s)? Do people not have the "right" to exact that punishment?

As I said, I don't know for certain but if I had to guess I'd say it is wrong to Him since, like I said, nobody is without sin. So, it would seem logical that He thinks it's not ok for them to be executed by any man or woman and that only He Himself has the right to judge them because He is the only one who is perfect. As for other "gods" you suggest I have no idea because my belief is that there is only One true god. Of course, there are many false gods though.

Ooooookay. Moving on! 🙂

Originally posted by riv6672
Ooooookay. Moving on! 🙂

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I'm for it. Been watching some documentary on serial killers recently, those guys deserve nothing less. And not an electric chair or a bullet but to be torn to pieces by the relatives of the victims. Those little bs speeches characters love to give in movies "killing him won't bring him/her back!" always annoyed me.

I think the option should be open for repeat offenders and psychotics, but it's disturbing how often people on death row in America (to say nothing of other countries like China and Iran) are proven innocent before or after their execution or evidence turns up that makes their innocence likely.

Yeah its not an easy issue.
I mean, i'm for it but i understand its not a perfect system.

i think it could work in some sort of society where everything was governed by a super powerful form of AI or something. humans just turn it into a bureaucracy and it just lingers on as a sort of super expensive vestige of the good ol days.

Funky! 😄