Batman -Vs- Mystique

Imo, not much point of a Batman thread without turning off PIS.

Basically this plays out similar to Batman's fights with his rogues ie. various Clayfaces

Also I don't know to many peak humans that can kick a motorcycle in half

edit:
Sorry just saw the location, it would be nearly impossible for him to detect Mystique with no prep unless his ninja "senses" kick in

Mystique stomps, even without the crowd.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Basically this plays out similar to Batman's fights with his rogues ie. various Clayfaces

Also I don't know to many peak humans that can kick a motorcycle in half

edit:
Sorry just saw the location, it would be nearly impossible for him to detect Mystique with no prep unless his ninja "senses" kick in

I never understood the downplaying of Batmans strength..he has feats that rival superhumans far above what his accepted base would be for a peak human.

Mystique, with relative ease.

Crowded mall gives her cover and hostages. Even in a more neutral setting Mystique takes it. Her healing factor, shiftable organs, and supermorphing (multiple heads/arms, amped strength, glider wings, etc.) give her an unmistakable edge. She's even morphed paper thin before to ride the shockwave of an explosion. Her h2h skills are pretty decent too, allowing her to give Wolverine pretty close matches at times.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Basically this plays out similar to Batman's fights with his rogues ie. various Clayfaces

Also I don't know to many peak humans that can kick a motorcycle in half

edit:
Sorry just saw the location, it would be nearly impossible for him to detect Mystique with no prep unless his ninja "senses" kick in

He must've gotten an upgrade somewhere along the line then. I know that, originally, he was created as "peak human" only. If not, then it could also be that the writer wasn't aware that Bats was supposed to be peak human either. Nowhere have I ever seen it stated wether in comics, by writes, in movies, etc... that Batman is a metahuman or even enhanced human like Captain America. He was originally created to be a human that through his sheer will and determination became the best that a human could ever become. He did this thru training, weightlifting, etc... not by taking some kind of enhancement serum (like CA).

If Batman is enhanced now as so many of you are claiming then I'd like to hear the explanation of how he became that way. He's not a mutant. He wasn't bitten by a radioactive spider, wasn't hit with gamma radiation, is not from some distant planet, and if he did, in fact, take some kind of enhancement serum or something similar I wasn't aware of it. I know for certain that his creator intended for him to be "peak human" only. Not enhanced.

Originally posted by Star428
He must've gotten an upgrade somewhere along the line then. I know that, originally, he was created as "peak human" only. If not, then it could also be that the writer wasn't aware that Bats was supposed to be peak human either. Nowhere have I ever seen it stated wether in comics, by writes, in movies, etc... that Batman is a metahuman or even enhanced human like Captain America. He was originally created to be a human that through his sheer will and determination became the best that a human could ever become. He did this thru training, weightlifting, etc... not by taking some kind of enhancement serum (like CA).

If Batman is enhanced now as so many of you are claiming then I'd like to hear the explanation of how he became that way. He's not a mutant. He wasn't bitten by a radioactive spider, wasn't hit with gamma radiation, is not from some distant planet, and if he did, in fact, take some kind of enhancement serum or something similar I wasn't aware of it. I know for certain that his creator intended for him to be "peak human" only. Not enhanced.

Batman is peak human. Not superhuman. The scan was tongue and cheek of a "peak human" doing things a peak human shouldnt be able to do.

For instance captain America is supposed to be peak human too but he has thrown his shield and cut the part off of a tank. Even thogh their supposed to be peak human they clearly are not. That's comics for you and why batman is the king of PIS

Originally posted by deathslash
don't worry, batman isn't above peak human. KM is just counting several of his highest showings. I'm not sure if KM has really recognized that every single peak human has done things that only super humans should be able to do (dodging bullets, moving faster than the eye can see, etc )

I'm counting several of his highest showings? I posted one scan. One scan.

Also your comment about how I'm not sure I understand that peak humans do superhuman feats? I don't? Clearly you have not seen me post before. Also who are you to say what I do or don't know? Seriously who are you again?

Originally posted by -K-M-
Batman is peak human. Not superhuman. The scan was tongue and cheek of a "peak human" doing things a peak human shouldnt be able to do.

For instance captain America is supposed to be peak human too but he has thrown his shield and cut the part off of a tank. Even thogh their supposed to be peak human they clearly are not. That's comics for you and why batman is the king of PIS

Captain America is enhanced human not peak. The super soldier serum gave him stats that are slightly above peak human.

Now, but the serum originally was meant to make him just peak human. Even enhanced human shouldn't be able to do the things he has done either.

even if mystique is stronger which i heavily dispute, batman has dummied people way stronger and faster than him in the past with his fighting skills alone, not to mention how dangerous he is when you bring the utility belt into the equation, mystique is done here, she gets kicked in half like that bike

For those wondering, here are a few bios that list Cap as just peak human

Master edition
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/OffHandbookMarvelMasterEdition02-03b_zpscfb69f09.jpg

Deluxe edition
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/MarvelDeluxeEdition2v1-46_zps46ab5b78.jpg

Avengers 2004
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11/118094/2866960-mu_handbook_avengers_2004_v1_08_rougher.jpg

Not sure which entry this is Perhaps A-Z Update
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116123/3147999-u.a.d.n.046_1.jpg

Batman is the Cap of DC and Cap is the Batman of Marvel. They're both "Peak Human", yet constantly do shit like outrun bullets and knock sniper rounds off course with batarangs and tons of other stuff way beyond their billed weight class.

Originally posted by KingD19
Batman is the Cap of DC and Cap is the Batman of Marvel. They're both "Peak Human", yet constantly do shit like outrun bullets and knock sniper rounds off course with batarangs and tons of other stuff way beyond their billed weight class.

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Deathstroke is the Cap of DC.

Panther is Marvels Batman.

Batman is all things to all people

Originally posted by panthergod
Deathstroke is the Cap of DC.

Panther is Marvels Batman.

But....that's backwards. Deathstroke>>>>Batman. That's been proven, but Black Panther>>>>Cap.

Also Deathstroke>>>>Cap and Black Panther>>>>Batman. So I wouldn't say that matches up right at all.

mystique wins giving the fight is in a mall. he will never know who she is.

Originally posted by -K-M-
I'm counting several of his highest showings? I posted one scan. One scan.

Also your comment about how I'm not sure I understand that peak humans do superhuman feats? I don't? Clearly you have not seen me post before. Also who are you to say what I do or don't know? Seriously who are you again?