Originally posted by carver9
The first two are durability showings.The last one makes sense but it takes us back to where we were before. You also have to remember, attacking these robots gives them your abilities. It wasn't a touch thing.
They already had the ability of all the mutants they had faced on the earth through the exploit of Ravens gene.
Originally posted by carver9
It depends. I don't think Superman dished out anything resembling the explosion they withstood from the amped jet.
Lol, wut? Please, he broke through the world engine gravity beam and tore through that hull and destroyed it, broke through a kryptonian ship in orbit hull by simply striking a panel with zero effort after he just regained his powers and tore through another ships hole just by flying into it.
Adding in fighting with the other K's and breaking Zods neck and all the other stuff. Do you really think they can just shrug off his physical attacks, and what do you base this on?
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Im not lowballing sm here. He withstood alot and kept on coming but so did the sentinels.
Answer my questions by proof or concede.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Now you are trolling..I shall embellish your childish rebellion.
Burden of proof is on you to prove the following things.
1. Kal-El has the mutant gene.
2. Show me proof they can withstand his attacks
3. Show me anyone on his level of physical damage and power set they contended with.
4. Prove they are immune to his physical strength, speed, flight and durability.
5. Prove that their power was greater then the World Engine, kryptonian lasers, and Faora, Zod and Nam.
Originally posted by carver9
The first two are durability showings.The last one makes sense but it takes us back to where we were before. You also have to remember, attacking these robots gives them your abilities. It wasn't a touch thing.
He had to propel himself forward in both instances at a force greater than the force he was trying to resist. If he were to use that much force against a Sentinel, it would go bye bye
Originally posted by juggerman
He had to propel himself forward in both instances at a force greater than the force he was trying to resist. If he were to use that much force against a Sentinel, it would go bye bye
Exactly. We talking about alien ships that can survive worm holes and light speed and he tore through like tin cans. The sentinels couldn't even withstand a ship being blow up.
Originally posted by carver9
Just want everyone to know that I haven't decided on who'll win. If i had to choose, it would be Superman due to basic knowledge and him picking up large objects tossing it at them instead of going fist cuff, but, the adapting powers works here.
Ok help me out here. How did the adapting powers work exactly? I mean when they fought Iceman they got hot. When they fought Sunspot they got cold. When they fought Colossus, it seemed like they "Rogued" him and just stole his power.
So say Superman punched one, how would they adapt exactly? I figure turning cold could negate his HV if they adapted quick enough, but what would they do to counter his strength?
Originally posted by juggerman
He had to propel himself forward in both instances at a force greater than the force he was trying to resist. If he were to use that much force against a Sentinel, it would go bye bye
Agreed, but he would have to blitz around at those speeds throughout the entire fight and he doesn't have a single showing backing that claim though.
Originally posted by carver9
Agreed, but he would have to blitz around at those speeds throughout the entire fight and he doesn't have a single showing backing that claim though.
If a plane explosion can take them out, Superman doesn't need his full World Engine power to take them out. Plus he never seemed to get too tired besides when he was drained by the Kryptonian smog
Originally posted by juggerman
Ok help me out here. How did the adapting powers work exactly? I mean when they fought Iceman they got hot. When they fought Sunspot they got cold. When they fought Colossus, it seemed like they "Rogued" him and just stole his power.So say Superman punched one, how would they adapt exactly? I figure turning cold could negate his HV if they adapted quick enough, but what would they do to counter his strength?
Their powers is to replicate...Nothing was shown of it being limited to mutant abilities. How can you pull the X Gene from fire or ice?
Also, they share powers with each other. Remember, one of then was fighting Iceman and that power (iceman power) went to another Sentinel that wasn't even in the vicinity and another was fighting the flame guy and his power went to the guy that was fighting Iceman. Superman punching one Sentinel might amp another one.
Originally posted by carver9
Agreed, but he would have to blitz around at those speeds throughout the entire fight and he doesn't have a single showing backing that claim though.
Why would he have to blitz around when they are attacking him, he starts punching them all one by one...
And he did show he can blitz, example him and Faora Fight...
Originally posted by carver9
Their powers is to replicate...Nothing was shown of it being limited to mutant abilities. How can you pull the X Gene from fire or ice?Also, they share powers with each other. Remember, one of then was fighting Iceman and that power (iceman power) went to another Sentinel that wasn't even in the vicinity and another was fighting the flame guy and his power went to the guy that was fighting Iceman. Superman punching one Sentinel might amp another one.
Don't make feats up please, the used the X Gene from Raven and all the mutants they fought which was in there programming..
They cannot adapt to his power.
Period.
They were never shown to amp to anything other then from what a mutant they countered or touched.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Why would he have to blitz around when they are attacking him, he starts punching them all one by one...And he did show he can blitz, example him and Faora Fight...
And that combat speed showing against Faora, the one where the humans in the diner was able to see is proof that be could blitz a 100 sentinels before they attacked.
Punching them would probably be the last thing he wants to do.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Don't make feats up please, the used the X Gene from Raven and all the mutants they fought which was in there programming..They cannot adapt to his power.
Period.
They were never shown to amp to anything other then from what a mutant they countered or touched.
Where did you get that from?
Huh? Are you serious? So the Sentinel that was fighting Iceman didn't turn to fire? So the Sentinel that was fighting the flame guy didn't turn to ice. Look at their first showing please.
Originally posted by carver9
Their powers is to replicate...Nothing was shown of it being limited to mutant abilities. How can you pull the X Gene from fire or ice?Also, they share powers with each other. Remember, one of then was fighting Iceman and that power (iceman power) went to another Sentinel that wasn't even in the vicinity and another was fighting the flame guy and his power went to the guy that was fighting Iceman. Superman punching one Sentinel might amp another one.
It seemed more to me like they had everything already within them and used it in accordance with what was needed. I.E. they all could change into fire or ice or steel but only did so when they needed to