Cade Skywalker vs. Satele Shan

Started by carthage4 pages

Yes

Originally posted by carthage
No she doesn't. She's an inferior duelist, and she's got no way to damage him with TK.
if you insist on existing on these forums then I insist that you change your name to "The Trollmeister 9000"

That wasn't a troll comment. O.o

Bantha beating Mekhis who is featless, and failing to beat Baras (who isn't swimming in dueling feats either) doesn't put her above Cade. Likewise, she isn't powerful enough in the force for her abilities to dominate someone who can hurl ships, tank massive explosions, and ragdoll force users himself.

I trusted after you lost in the Krayt vs Bane thread perpetuating the same behavior of wanking near featless duelists- you might've improved on that habit. I guess I was wrong about that

👆 Cade's utter slaughter over Darth Talon (who beat Sazen and Vao, who in return slaughtered dozens of Sith Warriors) is instantly superior to Satele Shan.
Add this onto his Dark Transfer, highly impressive TK, and superb lightsaber feats, and Satele Shan wouldn't last long at all. Cade is obviously superior.

Originally posted by Trocity
That wasn't a troll comment. O.o
i only quoted that statement so that people knew i was talking to carthage. I guess i should have put @ carthage instead of a quote.

Bantha, Cade has demonstrably better dueling feats than Satele. Cade likewise is too strong in the force for her to damage with telekinesis, and he is comparably fast (dodging multiple blaster volleys) to her to negate her edge in speed. Satele doesn't have anyway to gain any majority against him

Cade has superior TK feats then Shan. Casually dominating Talon numerous times is more impressive then TKing a injured Malgus after she got extra energy from the tutaminis.

Originally posted by carthage
Bantha, Cade has demonstrably better dueling feats than Satele. Cade likewise is too strong in the force for her to damage with telekinesis, and he is comparably fast (dodging multiple blaster volleys) to her to negate her edge in speed. Satele doesn't have anyway to gain any majority against him
Satele has greater physical strength as she held off Malgus's strength with one arm and also matched his strength while palming a lightsaber. She also has the skill to catch a lightsaber with her bare hands so even if Cade does win a lightsaber duel, the likely hood of him finishing her off that way is decreased. She also has greater TK ability, able to crumble large trees casually, blast apart extremely durable droids with gestures, freeze things in place with stares, and create force shields that heavily armed droids couldn't hope to penetrate.

Satele has greater physical strength as she held off Malgus's strength with one arm and also matched his strength while palming a lightsaber.

Satele had difficulty holding against Malgus using only one arm. Not impressive.
She also has the skill to catch a lightsaber with her bare hands so even if Cade does win a lightsaber duel, the likely hood of him finishing her off that way is decreased.

She isn't manhandling lightsabers like the Son is. 😐 She had immense difficulty holding against Malgus' blade. Plus the circumstances of her Tutaminis must be counted for.
Cade rarely attacks with the intention of disarming the opponent. Majority of his victory's were slashes that killed the opponent. Implying she will have the chance to use Tutaminis is fallacious.
Plus, Cade can easily finish her off with Dark Transfer. He was able to kill Shado Vao nearly instantly with it: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11114/111140132/4235920-bounty+cade+dark+transfer+shado+vao+5.jpg
She also has greater TK ability, able to crumble large trees casually, blast apart extremely durable droids with gestures, freeze things in place with stares

None of these are more impressive then utterly dominating Talon or hurling a huge ship. 😂
and create force shields that heavily armed droids couldn't hope to penetrate.

This is not even comparable to Cade's Force shield feat 😂 :
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Originally posted by DarthAnt66

Satele had difficulty holding against Malgus using only one arm. Not impressive.

She isn't manhandling lightsabers like the Son is. 😐 She had immense difficulty holding against Malgus' blade. Plus the circumstances of her Tutaminis must be counted for.
Cade rarely attacks with the intention of disarming the opponent. Majority of his victory's were slashes that killed the opponent. Implying she will have the chance to use Tutaminis is fallacious.
Plus, Cade can easily finish her off with Dark Transfer. He was able to kill Shado Vao nearly instantly with it: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11114/111140132/4235920-bounty+cade+dark+transfer+shado+vao+5.jpg

None of these are more impressive then utterly dominating Talon or hurling a huge ship. 😂

This is not even comparable to Cade's Force shield feat 😂 :
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111140132/4236012-guarded+cade+force+shield+%281o3%29.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111140132/4236013-guarded+cade+force+shield+%282o3%29.jpg
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Holding against Malgus with one arm may have been difficult but the difficulty doesn't under cut the impressiveness of the feat, she still did it while simultaneously crumbing a tree with the force. If Cade has better strength feats please share.

Likewise Cade is not on the Sons level. I don't see the point of bringing that up. Satele can catch his lightsaber with her hands as a last resort, and in doing so gain a massive power boost that would almost defiantly be the end of Cade. I don't think that is refutable.

Casually shattering a blast door is how ever.

That actually seems like an equel force shield feat as Satele was in space and was being used as a wrecking ball against more durable than durrasteel droids that are armed with all kinds of heavy weaponry.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Casually shattering a blast door is how ever.

Not even close.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Holding against Malgus with one arm may have been difficult but the difficulty doesn't under cut the impressiveness of the feat, she still did it while simultaneously crumbing a tree with the force. If Cade has better strength feats please share.

It utterly cuts the impressiveness. She only managed to survive doing it because of destroying the tree.
In terms of strength, Cade has utterly overpowered a Jedi (Force-augmented strength) without using the Force.
He also is able to use only one-hand against Darth Krayt's blows. This is the same guy who lifted a lesser Cade off the floor with one hand.
Oh, and he round-house kicked Darth Stryfe so hard the guy flew many meters and beyond. Same guy who stalemated Wolf Sazen to death.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Likewise Cade is not on the Sons level. I don't see the point of bringing that up. Satele can catch his lightsaber with her hands as a last resort, and in doing so gain a massive power boost that would almost defiantly be the end of Cade. I don't think that is refutable.

You are implying Shan is on the Son's level, what!? Satele's tutaminis is negligible compared to Cade's Dark Transfer.
Example: If the Malgus and Shan situation comes out, Cade can use his extra hand to quickly kill Satele Shan via Dark Transfer.
He demonstrated the ability to use it during combat against Shado Vao though. He could quickly end the fight like he did there.

Casually shattering a blast door is how ever.

Cade's shatterpoint ability is far more impressive then Shan's.

That actually seems like an equel force shield feat as Satele was in space and was being used as a wrecking ball against more durable than durrasteel droids that are armed with all kinds of heavy weaponry.

How the hell is droid fire compared to an entire lab being destroyed? I can't even process this stupidity.

Using shatterpoint to kill a Sith Lord >>>> using it to kill droids.

LOL WHAT? i never said Satele is son level. You said she wasn't and i said Cade also isn't and that making that comparison was stupid. Idk how you draw such a stupid conclusion

@Jack *Using TK to manhandle a Sith Lord >>>> using it to kill droids.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
LOL WHAT? i never said Satele is son level. You said she wasn't and i said Cade also isn't and that making that comparison was stupid. Idk how you draw such a stupid conclusion

You were acting like Shan could block Cade's attacks with her hands, which was idiotic.

He's talking about Talon.

Talon's so hot when she's being helplessly ragdolled.

For the first one, issue 17. For the second one, no clue.