Thor Vs Orion · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Orion isn't THAT tactical a fighter, just saying.....he's almost exactly like Thor. Sure, he'll blast a bit, but a lot of the time, he charges in without thinking of the consequences. Bear in mind, the following scan is the culmination of months of Morrison building the New Gods up, Orion having been sent by Metron to aid in the fortification of Earth - IOW, the best of the best, the special forces, the SAS, to help us puny humans:
Interesting sidenote: I sometimes shout out 'Devils of Darkseid! The terrain itself is technoactive!!!!! in conversations.

Orion does charge into battle i never denied that, but he does so using his weapons to the best of there ability. He fights smarter by using his resources, thor is a brawler, the last time someone(superman) tried to brawl with orion they got one shotted.

Orion still has the speed advantage and will use this to take out thor, thor will try and brawl, orion will be firing shots that can break worlds and put down superman. Orion has this fight.

Orion has taken much heavier shots than what thor can dish out, HE HAS TAKEN A HIT THAT CAN BUST A STAR SYSTEM, he has tanked hits from superman on multiple occasions. HE HAS TANKED OMEGA BEAMS, he has also taken hits from black adam and last but not least HE TOOK A POWERFUL SHOT FROM STARRO.

Orion also has shields that can block new gods tech AND THE OMEGA EFFECT.

Orion is too fast and is too durable for thor, along with the fact that he has his astro force which has put down people with higher durability.

krisblaze Senior Member

He also has greater reaction time than Wolverine. That's how he travels and fights at lightspeed.

sensical is backformation of nonsensical, and it's accepted as a word. Doesn't matter, I hit space when I meant to type commonsensical.

Thor has not been knocked out by the Hulk. You did not establish that Orion used his tools better or that his durability is greater.

I have Thor beating skyfathers in H2H as well. Not that Darkseid's a good H2H fighter, and that was entirely plot-directed. No more impressive than Thor killing the Serpent. It was a prophecy coming true.

Faster, not more durable, possibly stronger, not smarter, faaaar lower damage output, no real method of redirecting damage, no absorption, etc.

Thor has kept up with far more powerful people than Orion and has more than enough tools to put him down.

Feel free to commence lowballing and hasten your ban.

Also, the last time Orion brawled with someone he literally ate gravel and was chained at the first born's feet 🙂

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Originally posted by carver9
Exactly. Orion is just as much a brick as Thor is and rarely if ever use super speed during combat (don't know where he got the idea Orion is faster than Thor anyways). He use examples of Orion fight people with super speed ignoring Thor has done the same. He has Orion fighting to the best of his abilities without giving Thor the same credit.

Thor has not fought anyone as fast as orion and i have MULTIPLE feats of him bullet timing new god tech AND DODGING MISTER MIRACLE WITH FTL TECH.

Thor has been outpaced by wolverine and he does not have the reaction feats to be put on par with orion.

Orion is faster and i have proven this time and time again and you have brought up nothing to counter.

basilisk Senior Member

Originally posted by krisblaze
Not only is that some pathetic ABC logic, with wildly outdated scans.
It's also another version of Thor, who regular Thor proved to be much, much faster than 🙂

I suppose that Thor could be faster than that inept bumbler Masterson, but was there ever any direct showing or actual mention of this? I always thought that Masterson got shown up a lot by guys like Spider-Man not because he was much slower than Thor, but because he didn't have the fighting instincts and honed reflexes of the warrior Thor and just didn't react as well in those fight situations. If he had Thor's power wouldn't he have Thor's speed? I can't remember anymore.

krisblaze Senior Member

They fought.

Masterson couldn't land a hit on Thor, and Thor's also fought the same opponents shortly after and didn't have the same problems, etc.

Doesn't matter though, it was shit-PIS anyways 🙂

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

Originally posted by thingy150
Orion does charge into battle i never denied that, but he does so using his weapons to the best of there ability. He fights smarter by using his resources, thor is a brawler, the last time someone(superman) tried to brawl with orion they got one shotted.
Orion still has the speed advantage and will use this to take out thor, thor will try and brawl, orion will be firing shots that can break worlds and put down superman. Orion has this fight.
Orion has taken much heavier shots than what thor can dish out, HE HAS TAKEN A HIT THAT CAN BUST A STAR SYSTEM, he has tanked hits from superman on multiple occasions. HE HAS TANKED OMEGA BEAMS, he has also taken hits from black adam and last but not least HE TOOK A POWERFUL SHOT FROM STARRO.
Orion also has shields that can block new gods tech AND THE OMEGA EFFECT.
Orion is too fast and is too durable for thor, along with the fact that he has his astro force which has put down people with higher durability.

The Starro shot took him out and KOed him, after Orion flew right into it (possibly whilst screaming about how awesome he was). The same shot was tanked by Aquaman, AQUAMAN, who was back in the fight right after.

thingy150 Restricted

Originally posted by krisblaze
He also has greater reaction time than Wolverine. That's how he travels and fights at lightspeed.
sensical is backformation of nonsensical, and it's accepted as a word. Doesn't matter, I hit space when I meant to type commonsensical.
Thor has not been knocked out by the Hulk. You did not establish that Orion used his tools better or that his durability is greater.
I have Thor beating skyfathers in H2H as well. Not that Darkseid's a good H2H fighter, and that was entirely plot-directed. No more impressive than Thor killing the Serpent. It was a prophecy coming true.
Faster, not more durable, possibly stronger, not smarter, faaaar lower damage output, no real method of redirecting damage, no absorption, etc.
Thor has kept up with far more powerful people than Orion and has more than enough tools to put him down.
Feel free to commence lowballing and hasten your ban.
Also, the last time Orion brawled with someone he literally ate gravel and was chained at the first born's feet 🙂

Give me a scan of it stating thor was fighting at light speed....no you cannot because he has not, he can travel at light speed but his reaction time has shown to be slow.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN NOT SMARTER, ORION FIGHTS MUCH SMARTER WHICH I HAVE SHOWN BY HIM USING ALL OF HIS ABILITIES TO THE BEST OF THERE ABILITY.

Thor does not have the tools to put him down BECAUSE THOR DOES NOT USE ANY OF HIS TOOLS AND ORION CAN BLOCK THEM WITH HIS ASTRO HARNESS ANYWAY.

Orion Can destroy worlds and HAS PUT DOWN SUPERMAN WHO IS MUCH MORE DURABLE THAN THOR.

You still have not furthered your debate because you continue just to speculate and ignore what orion can do. I have shown you everything i have stated and proven how orion wins with scans and logic, you have yet to prove any part of your posts.

orion is faster and will put him down with the astro harness, thor has been put down by far less like:

http://i.stack.imgur.com/SV9Qj.jpg

Lol maybe orion will rush him and put him down with his own hammer just liek hulk did.

thingy150 Restricted

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The Starro shot took him out and KOed him, after Orion flew right into it (possibly whilst screaming about how awesome he was). The same shot was tanked by Aquaman, AQUAMAN, who was back in the fight right after.

Post the scans of aquaman taking a shot with the same magnitude of the one orion took.

You ignored the rest of this post and two of my other posts, you are picking and choosing what you respond to because you cant tackle the entire argument im making.

krisblaze Senior Member

Lo and behold, lowballing 🙂

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

Originally posted by thingy150
Post the scans of aquaman taking a shot with the same magnitude of the one orion took.
You ignored the rest of this post and two of my other posts, you are picking and choosing what you respond to because you cant tackle the entire argument im making.

It was the same one.

thingy150 Restricted

Originally posted by krisblaze
Lo and behold, lowballing 🙂

I thought i might because you clearly did not read the rest of my argument, go back and read my other posts.

Orion is stronger....much, orion did not beat darkseid based off of destiny he is just better than darkseid, he is more powerful and defeated him.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/57746/1858940-765412_darkseid_death_11_super.jpg

thingy150 Restricted

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

It was the same one.

It never shows aquaman get up, you said he got right back up and orion stayed down.

Is that the only one of the durability feats you payed attention to? I posted many more that you seem to have ignored.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/134477/2597451-NewGodsv3_08-21.jpg

And here he takes a full omega beam.

Orion has shields that can block all of thors attacks anyway.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5XndiqKOXy2Wn96wZA-7mf_Q7NfGc361D4AoP8v5MzFQwY8Jglw

Orion is stated to be on the level of post crisis superman....we all know he is superior than thor.

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Lol, are you seriously going to use thor vs gorr, he had a piece of the odin force that does not pertain to this battle. The "planets" you are talking about is a planet that is not 100 light years away, so nice try.

Seriously, you have to lie now? If you are going to use scans that are not allowed in this fight why are you even here?

When thor fights he does not use the full versatility of his powers and he is not as durable as his power output. Orion can absorb basically all of thors attacks with his astro force. Orion is MUCH faster which i have already proven and you have yet to counter. Thor will not touch the dog of war and orion will put him out with one or two blasts of his astro force which has put down superman and can destroy planets.

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods10-15_Earth--The_Doomed_Dominion.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods10-16_Earth--The_Doomed_Dominion.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods10-19_Earth--The_Doomed_Dominion.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods10-20_Earth--The_Doomed_Dominion.jpg

Here he is getting the upper hand on mantis who has one shotted green lantern and martian manhunter. Orion has even handled mantis's most powerful blow before which turns people into anti matter but orion was too strong.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/FOREVERPEOPLE02P21.jpg

Mantis's anti matter touch CAN SHATTER STAR SYSTEMS he said this while fighting infinity man and he used this touch on orion.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/SuperPowersV2_6of6_06.jpg

Mantis easily drains all the power of martian manhunter

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SSOSV004-06.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SSOSV004-07.jpg

Mantis easily beats hal jordan

now you know what mantis is capable of and orion has fought him evenly multiple times.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/139138/2775810-2053972_thorvsspiderman.jpg

SPIDERMAN IS FASTER THAN THOR, orion will run circles around him, orion has caught a bullet while blind from a few feat away, he has fought mr miracle going ftl, he has fought superman evenly and kept up with him, orion has rushed a whole star fleet of darkseids. Orion has superior speed and uses his arsenal to the best of his ability.

Thor does not usually use his powers and when he does it is few and far between, the way thor fights people he 1st meets is by trying to brawl with them and that will not work with orion, orion is faster and uses his gear to the best of his ability.

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/POS-045-20.jpg

This is not the full scan but orion has fought black adam evenly and it was without his astro harness.

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/jkfw-17-10.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/149743/3473257-0473326615-Astro.jpg

The astro force can block anything thor can throw at him, orion is more durable, faster, smarter, a better fighter and uses his weapons better than thor. Thor will try and come out and brawl like he always does and orion will use his speed and astro force to put him down, if the astro force can put down superman and destroy planets thor does not stand a chance.

Did anyone read this post? Thought it might be educational.

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Originally posted by thingy150
It never shows aquaman get up, you said he got right back up and orion stayed down.
Is that the only one of the durability feats you payed attention to? I posted many more that you seem to have ignored.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/134477/2597451-NewGodsv3_08-21.jpg
And here he takes a full omega beam.
Orion has shields that can block all of thors attacks anyway.
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5XndiqKOXy2Wn96wZA-7mf_Q7NfGc361D4AoP8v5MzFQwY8Jglw
Orion is stated to be on the level of post crisis superman....we all know he is superior than thor.

It shows Aquaman talking telepathically and not showing any ill-effects. Orion's all busted up and KO'd

Aquaman was also much closer than Orion was to the blast. I did not ignore your other scans, only pointing out that to use the Starro blast as some kinda high-end feat isn't all that impressive, considering Aquaman was at that very same blast, and yet was conscious and still able to hold full telepathic conversations with Zauriel AND MM.

Meanwhile, this was what Orion looked like:

Very different, no?

Aquaman > Orion, in this case.

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Lol again, you picked out one scan and ignored every single one of my other plethora of scans.

Well if you use that then orion>than thor because of:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVsqX01oZhI5vWnMRMr73u-gK4F6Cxo4XzEVnZeUmEArMneN-oLlIGJF4

You did not even bother with my other posts, you just ignored them.

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

Originally posted by thingy150
Lol again, you picked out one scan and ignored every single one of my other plethora of scans.
Well if you use that then orion>than thor because of:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVsqX01oZhI5vWnMRMr73u-gK4F6Cxo4XzEVnZeUmEArMneN-oLlIGJF4
You did not even bother with my other posts, you just ignored them.

I like going through each of your posts and give them the careful attention you deserve.

So we are both agreed that the Starro showing (which you hyped up, saying last but NOT least) isn't all that? Was it his best feat? 2nd best? Out of the examples you had of Orion, where did it rank? Because if it's near the top of his best feats, and Aquaman had a better showing than him, that's honestly not saying much.

Had you just used it as a throwaway showing, as an aside, yeah, I wouldn't focus so much on it. But you have such a high regard for it, I had to jump in.

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ORION CONTAINED THE OBLIVION BOMB WHICH WOULD HAVE DESTROYED THE UNIVERSE BUT THE ASTRO FORCE IS SO POWERFUL HE ABSORBED IT.

Orion can absorb any of thors attack and or block them with his astro force not to mention the fact the astro force can destroy worlds.

Orion wins.

thingy150 Restricted

Containing a universe busting blast>than anything thor has done and can throw at him.

Orion wins with the astro force, he is far too versatile and the astro force is much too powerful in both output and defense.

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

Originally posted by thingy150
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/254x387q90/98/jkfw0505.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/252x387q90/835/jkfw0506.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/254x387q90/20/jkfw0511.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/250x387q90/143/jkfw0512.jpg
ORION CONTAINED THE OBLIVION BOMB WHICH WOULD HAVE DESTROYED THE UNIVERSE BUT THE ASTRO FORCE IS SO POWERFUL HE ABSORBED IT.
Orion can absorb any of thors attack and or block them with his astro force not to mention the fact the astro force can destroy worlds.
Orion wins.

Thanks for the scans, but I honestly am unable to read them due to the resoltuion - have you got anything sharper?

Also, do you have evidence that Thor had the Odin force at the time?

Originally posted by thingy150
Containing a universe busting blast>than anything thor has done and can throw at him.
Orion wins with the astro force, he is far too versatile and the astro force is much too powerful in both output and defense.

And more recent than yours, too 😉

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What is it even showing in that scan? What does being more recent have to do with anything? Thor is slower than orion, orions astro force with contain any of his attempts to attack orion, but he will not even use mjolnir well because he always brawls while meeting a new threat.