Originally posted by Stoic
Have you ever seen what Yusuke can do? I don't see how you're calling S-Class Yusuke a curb stomp for Teth, or is it the other way around?
I've watched the anime several times and read the manga a few times. He at best has a gigaton level+ feat or two, maybe country busting if you take Spirit World's claim of "country destruction possible" seriously
Nothing compares to who is (from what I gather) a Superman tier being
Originally posted by StealthRanger
Why do you think Yusuke could win?
B Class Yusuke beat a class 100 guy. Toguro was easily as strong as some of DC's heavier hitters. He was B-Class. Yusuke at the end of the series became S-Class which was 2 classes above Toguro. Maybe you should go back and check that show out, because Yusuke was no joke.
Originally posted by StealthRanger
I've watched the anime several times and read the manga a few times. He at best has a gigaton level+ feat or two, maybe country busting if you take Spirit World's claim of "country destruction possible" seriouslyNothing compares to who is (from what I gather) a Superman tier being
What country sized real estate has Teth ever shown to dismantle?
Originally posted by StoicDC's heavier hitters can manipulate planetary bodies or more with their best showings. Tossing around mountains is shit Superman could do in the Byrne era.
B Class Yusuke beat a class 100 guy. Toguro was easily as strong as some of DC's heavier hitters. He was B-Class. Yusuke at the end of the series became S-Class which was 2 classes above Toguro. Maybe you should go back and check that show out, because Yusuke was no joke.
I am more familiar with pre-reboot DC though. Which version are you using?
Originally posted by Stoic
B Class Yusuke beat a class 100 guy. Toguro was easily as strong as some of DC's heavier hitters. He was B-Class. Yusuke at the end of the series became S-Class which was 2 classes above Toguro. Maybe you should go back and check that show out, because Yusuke was no joke.
Class 100 is a Marvel Power Grid thing, right?
Marvel's strength tiering is a joke (lifting 100 tons in real life terms is a wee bit south of a single megajoule), considering Class 100 dudes in Marvel/DC terms are the dudes who bust planets (Thor, Hulk, Superman, Gladiator, Wonder Woman, etc)
Plus Marvel/DC's power grid ratings have being rendered useless as a debating source for years due to said stats not lining up with character's feats at all
Superman tier beings bust up planets, whereas Yusuke and S Class demons on Sensui's level are only in the triple digit GT range, oh and Toguro only has a kiloton feat from some weaker character busting up part of the stadium and Hiei busting up half the steel roof of the stadium and physically stalemating Yusuke's Raigen, he's not competing with dudes who can bust up planets with their fists
Not to mention EoS Yusuke's only massively hypersonic, while Black Adam is FTL+, yeah
EDIT:
Yusuke would beat the hell out of the Animated Superman.
So we're talking DCAU Teth, in that case I take back what I said, don't know of the DCAU's capabilities
Certain friends of mine who speak Japanese have translated Sensui stressing the world line and it said that he can't release even 5% of his power because it'd stress the Planet. Assuming stressing means shaking the planet, according to CNN shaking the planet is equal to a 100 Gigaton blast, which is multi-Island busting. If he did that at 5% that would mean Sensui at 100% can release 2000 Gigatons or 2 Teratons, which is small country busting. Yusuke by the end of the manga using Youki levels is 50 times stronger than Sensui, so just him charging up his aura should be 100 Teratons or Multi-country busting.
Originally posted by NemeBro
DC's heavier hitters can manipulate planetary bodies or more with their best showings. Tossing around mountains is shit Superman could do in the Byrne era.I am more familiar with pre-reboot DC though. Which version are you using?
Post crisis Black Adam. I have never seen him tossing around planetary sized bodies. Superman holds back all of the time. Teth does not somehow equal Superman.
Originally posted by StealthRanger
Class 100 is a Marvel Power Grid thing, right?Marvel's strength tiering is a joke (lifting 100 tons in real life terms is a wee bit south of a single megajoule), considering Class 100 dudes in Marvel/DC terms are the dudes who bust planets (Thor, Hulk, Superman, Gladiator, Wonder Woman, etc)
Plus Marvel/DC's power grid ratings have being rendered useless as a debating source for years due to said stats not lining up with character's feats at all
Superman tier beings bust up planets, whereas Yusuke and S Class demons on Sensui's level are only in the triple digit GT range, oh and Toguro only has a kiloton feat from some weaker character busting up part of the stadium and Hiei busting up half the steel roof of the stadium and physically stalemating Yusuke's Raigen, he's not competing with dudes who can bust up planets with their fists
Not to mention EoS Yusuke's only massively hypersonic, while Black Adam is FTL+, yeah
EDIT:
So we're talking DCAU Teth, in that case I take back what I said, don't know of the DCAU's capabilities
Class 100 is Marvel's way of saying a character can lift more than 100 tons. At which point no limit has been given to them, but is countered by showing on panel limitations that exceed 100 tons. We can use either the animated version, or the comic version. I think Yusuke would be an absolute beast if he were in a comic. if he can slap a mountain down, what kind of property damage would he actually be capable of? I'm thinking that you may be hung up on the comic books. I mean are you? Teth has never done the things that Superman has done, so we should leave the Kryptonian out of this. I mean what do you think?
Originally posted by The Merchant
Certain friends of mine who speak Japanese have translated Sensui stressing the world line and it said that he can't release even 5% of his power because it'd stress the Planet. Assuming stressing means shaking the planet, according to CNN shaking the planet is equal to a 100 Gigaton blast, which is multi-Island busting. If he did that at 5% that would mean Sensui at 100% can release 2000 Gigatons or 2 Teratons, which is small country busting. Yusuke by the end of the manga using Youki levels is 50 times stronger than Sensui, so just him charging up his aura should be 100 Teratons or Multi-country busting.
👆 I know... Yusuke is no joke.
Originally posted by StoicOh okay.
Post crisis Black Adam. I have never seen him tossing around planetary sized bodies. Superman holds back all of the time. Teth does not somehow equal Superman.
What he has done is taken a knock to the face from Superboy Prime, who could accidentally kill Yusuke with a single casual slap. In the same story where Prime was pushing planets across the universe like marbles.
That's about it as far as my knowledge of Black Adam goes, but that one durability feat is better than any in YYH. Is he normally weaker than that?
Originally posted by NemeBro
Oh okay.What he has done is taken a knock to the face from Superboy Prime, who could accidentally kill Yusuke with a single casual slap. In the same story where Prime was pushing planets across the universe like marbles.
That's about it as far as my knowledge of Black Adam goes, but that one durability feat is better than any in YYH. Is he normally weaker than that?
He was playing with Teth. Prime isn't the one we're talking about here, nor does Teth have his abilities, or even close to them. What I'm saying is to scale Teth to Yusuke's proportions, not to guys far above Teth's.