She's council-level, and pretty solid in it, so there's no crushing going on. Well, unless she lands a good TK on him, but still, he's not easy to hit with a strong push like that, he's avoided them before. I'd say close fight.
Lesse, has Griev fought any non-exhausted council members, without backup, aside from Fisto and Kenobi?
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Adi Gallia. Mace Windu.And why doesn't Kenobi count?
He counts, but he's stronger than Talon anyway (Windu even more-so), and I'm looking for datapoints close to her level.
Lesse, Adi did well the first time, not as well the second time. Though Talon's stronger than she is, especially in force...
Originally posted by Q99The exhausted thing is so overplayed on this board...
Lesse, has Griev fought any non-exhausted council members, without backup, aside from Fisto and Kenobi?
Aside from Fisto, Kenobi, Windu and Gallia... he defeated a version of Ventress who could give Dooku a solid fight, was proclaimed as more formidable than Ventress by Dooku, was able to legitimately challenge Dooku in sparring matches despite Dooku controlling what he chose to teach Grievous, and he has some decent feats against groups of fodder opponents where he uses unorthodox methods to kill them, i.e raising his height to slide through their guard, activating anti-grav repulsors, suddenly pulling out his lower arms to surprise opponents, ect.
He's also the best hand-to-hand Jedi killer in the mythos, apparently.
Originally posted by ILS
The exhausted thing is so overplayed on this board...
There is the simple matter that, even though I agree he *is* quite strong, he never matched *that* level of performance again, and 'tiring people before you fight them' is both a legitimate tactic and one he performs often (like vs Shaak Ti, or vs Maul).
Originally posted by Q99Other than Mundi, none of the other duelists were anything to write home about. Their numbers was their main strength, not their collective skill. I just don't see why people can't see the showing for what it is rather than acting like it's either some massive outlier or that the Jedi were basically in comas from their fatigue.
There is the simple matter that, even though I agree he *is* quite strong, he never matched *that* level of performance again, and 'tiring people before you fight them' is both a legitimate tactic and one he performs often (like vs Shaak Ti, or vs Maul).
Yes, Grievous tires people out before facing them. It doesn't mean he needs to do this in order to have success. He fought Kit Fisto despite the fact he himself was *exhausted* and needed rest, and despite Fisto's Form advantage Grievous contended with him well. And when he fought Windu he had a mobility disadvantage and only brandished two blades. He can do well when the odds are against him as well.
And as far as taking on groups go, in Labyrinth of Evil Grievous was capable of killing four Jedi (admittedly novices), five Red Guards and the rest of the rooms guards, before a single one of them could have activated/drawn their weapons. His physical and mental enhancements let him do things that others in his skill tier can't replicate.
Originally posted by ILS
And as far as taking on groups go, in Labyrinth of Evil Grievous was capable of killing four Jedi (admittedly novices), five Red Guards and the rest of the rooms guards, before a single one of them could have activated/drawn their weapons. His physical and mental enhancements let him do things that others in his skill tier can't replicate.
I haven't read LoE in years, but isn't that the novel where he kills those jedi towards the end, and "blood sprays through the ventilation system" or something like that? That always struck me as odd, though maybe he didn't use his lightsabers to do it. I seem to remember it that way, though.
Originally posted by TrocityThe blood formed in a mist in the air because of the the ventilators in Grievous' anti-grav repulsors.
I haven't read LoE in years, but isn't that the novel where he kills those jedi towards the end, and "blood sprays through the ventilation system" or something like that? That always struck me as odd, though maybe he didn't use his lightsabers to do it. I seem to remember it that way, though.
For practice, Grievous called two more blades from his belt, grasping them in his feet even as the anti-grav repulsors built into his legs were lifting him from the floor, making him every bit as agile as the Force did the Jedi.With his four blades to the Jedi’s two, the duel had come full circle.
Whirling, he severed the blade hand of the Talz, then his opposing foot, then took his life, as well. Mists of blood formed in the air, swirled about by the ventilators.