Except Dooku does it in pretty much every fight they have up to the last one. If Anakin was truly better it would be the other way around. Plus the fact that he pushed Anakin and Kenobi back at the same time definitely indicates superiority.
Plus I don't think Malgus was superior in TK to Darach at that point.
No it does't Kenobi has bad force defenses, this is already well established. Anakin has superior/comparable telekinetic showings to Dooku, so Dooku at least hurling him back isn't the same as him ragdolling Kenobi (based on Anakins feats). Again what TK showings does Dooku have that surpass Anakin moving that Dreadknought cruiser?
It doesn't matter that Obi-Wan's power is comparably weak, if Anakin were truly more powerful in TK than Dooku he'd be able to easily resist him with Kenobi's help. Dooku has better TK feats than Anakin moving that Dreadknought cruiser such as moving Anakin.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Are you implying that you disagree?
Well the power was sealed in Lake Natth. So he wasn't truly on a nexus when he died imo.
Except that Kenobi having poor force defense showings isn't the same as Anakin being hurled back by a comparatively powerful being. Likewise, Anakin has hurled him back as well, and no throwing Anakin back obviously less indicative of power than moving a shuttle lol. The power gap between them is less expansive than the power gap between Kenobi and either fighter.
Unless you think that Kenobi having poor defense actually made their joint effort less effective I have no idea what your logic is. And the only time Anakin has pushed Dooku back with TK was about 3 seconds before Dooku turned it back on him and put him on his ass, on Tatooine. Overpowering the TK of a force user who can move a heavy object shows greater ability than is needed to move that object. By surpassing Anakin, he surpasses Anakin's feats as well, understand?
Their "joint effort" has nothing to do with power/force defense showings, so I have no idea what your logic is. Also shoving each other back is again not proof that X is superior, especially since either of them have shown feats of power that aren't all that dissimilar Anakin just has a few more superior ones. Shoving Anakin back isn't surpassing him lol, especially since Anakin's potential is vastly superior to Dooku who was approaching his end in ROTS.
Originally posted by carthage
Their "joint effort" has nothing to do with power/force defense showings, so I have no idea what your logic is.
Lmao. Yeah, them defending against his attack has nothing to do with defense. Of course. haermm
Originally posted by carthage
Also shoving each other back is again not proof that X is superior, especially since either of them have shown feats of power that aren't all that dissimilar Anakin just has a few more superior ones. Shoving Anakin back isn't surpassing him lol, especially since Anakin's potential is vastly superior to Dooku who was approaching his end in ROTS.
On Tatooine they have a direct contest of TK. Anakin surprises and pushes Dooku back, and then Dooku rallies and puts Anakin on his ass. Dooku is better.
Still waiting for you to bring up a superior TK feat for Dooku that surpasses Anakin. And again Kenobi being taken out regardless if its a "joint" fight, has nothing to do with Anakins force defenses. Kenobi has been taken out by everyone, The fact Dooku can do that to Anakin is only due to rivaling power and there is a difference between ragdolling and shoving back. You've shown no TK feat for Dooku that proves he is more powerful
Originally posted by carthageWhether it's a mismatch or not doesn't matter to me, I just make threads like these in the hopes of entertaining debates.
Bane isnt being discussed anymore, and this is a blatant mismatch in favor of the jedi. And asking Neph to provide proof for claims he makes isnt trolling.