Tbh...Juggernaut is on point. If you look at the scans he is posting, it is telling us that he is turning into the Juggernaut. Why would it even say that if he is walking around with Jugs power. It's a turn on turn off mechanism. Now, without him turning into the Juggernaut, I don't think he was walking around with Colossus strength. I think he was stronger without armoring up than regular Colossus. How much stronger, who knows. The scan posted above, he survived an attack from a Celestial and a powerful attack at that. Can't see standard Colossus surviving that.
Originally posted by carver9The writer stated that when not tapping into the power it was regular old Colossus. I emailed him on Formspring and I can't find the email but it was a couple years ago.
Tbh...Juggernaut is on point. If you look at the scans he is posting, it is telling us that he is turning into the Juggernaut. Why would it even say that if he is walking around with Jugs power. It's a turn on turn off mechanism. Now, without him turning into the Juggernaut, I don't think he was walking around with Colossus strength. I think he was stronger without armoring up than regular Colossus. How much stronger, who knows. The scan posted above, he survived an attack from a Celestial and a powerful attack at that. Can't see standard Colossus surviving that.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
The writer stated that when not tapping into the power it was regular old Colossus. I emailed him on Formspring and I can't find the email but it was a couple years ago.
Wouldn't deny it tbh. Could be standard Colossus but overall, I do agree with your point on him armoring up becoming the Juggernaut.
Originally posted by carver9That was also Loeb Rulk iirc. That speaks for itself.
This scene Colossonaut is clearly tanking attacks from Red Hulk whereas when he wasn't armored up, Red Hulk punches were affecting him.
Originally posted by carver9Well I was very specific on that matter and he clearly stated he can tap into the powers at will and we he doesn't he is normal powered Colossus.
Wouldn't deny it tbh. Could be standard Colossus but overall, I do agree with your point on him armoring up becoming the Juggernaut.
Originally posted by carver9
Wouldn't deny it tbh. Could be standard Colossus but overall, I do agree with your point on him armoring up becoming the Juggernaut.
Originally posted by carver9That's not his argument.
Wouldn't deny it tbh. Could be standard Colossus but overall, I do agree with your point on him armoring up becoming the Juggernaut.
Which is based on nothing. And another way of steering away from conceding that colossus loses here. What is this, fifteenth time you posted a different scan only to be proven wrong and simply ignored it?
If you think having the last word means you win, go ahead. But enough with dodging questions, who wins here IYO?
It's made clear that Colossus and Juggernaut are two different things. When he's "Colossus", he's bald and in his battle gear. When he's "Juggernaut", you see the helmet form and his eyes start to glow, etc...
He was Colossus when he got the hole blown in him, he only needed to turn to Juggernaut to heal because Colossus doesn't have healing powers. And also because a power up wouldn't hurt against the Celestials. Also it stands to point out that Colossus tanks damage like nobodies business. Remember years ago when he had the least damage from an attack that killed people like Hulk and Thor?
He was Colossus when he was whooping on War Machine and he almost transformed but Storm specifically said, "We don't need Juggernaut right now."
He was Colossus when he was fighting Red Hulk. He stayed Colossus up until the column holding up Utopia started calling out to his inner darkness to destroy it.
On the moon, he was Juggernaut. He got his helmet knocked off, but he was still Juggernaut. He stops being Juggernaut when he removes the helmet and powers down voluntarily.
Now this is not me saying Colossus will beat Namor. Just explaining about him as people seem to favor Namor to a point or dislike Colossus to a point that all they do is trash him.
He'd give him a damn good fight, and Namor wouldn't win easily, but he'd take more wins than losses due to Colossus being stuck with a huge team and never getting a chance to shine like he should. But I think Colossus could take a few due to his durability, strength, skill, and agility/speed which is actually enhanced a great deal when he's metal as opposed to what people think that he's some big slow brick.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I provided scans showing how Colossus' powers worked during that time but you choose to ignore them. He could turn the powers on and off at will. It's all right there in front of you.
And who wins here? Enough dancing from you already.
Originally posted by KingD19Rulk never fought normal colossus. That's it.
It's made clear that Colossus and Juggernaut are two different things. When he's "Colossus", he's bald and in his battle gear. When he's "Juggernaut", you see the helmet form and his eyes start to glow, etc...He was Colossus when he got the hole blown in him, he only needed to turn to Juggernaut to heal because Colossus doesn't have healing powers. And also because a power up wouldn't hurt against the Celestials. Also it stands to point out that Colossus tanks damage like nobodies business. Remember years ago when he had the least damage from an attack that killed people like Hulk and Thor?
He was Colossus when he was whooping on War Machine and he almost transformed but Storm specifically said, "We don't need Juggernaut right now."
He was Colossus when he was fighting Red Hulk. He stayed Colossus up until the column holding up Utopia started calling out to his inner darkness to destroy it.
On the moon, he was Juggernaut. He got his helmet knocked off, but he was still Juggernaut. He stops being Juggernaut when he removes the helmet and powers down voluntarily.
Now this is not me saying Colossus will beat Namor. Just explaining about him as people seem to favor Namor to a point or dislike Colossus to a point that all they do is trash him.
He'd give him a damn good fight, and Namor wouldn't win easily, but he'd take more wins than losses due to Colossus being stuck with a huge team and never getting a chance to shine like he should. But I think Colossus could take a few due to his durability, strength, skill, and agility/speed which is actually enhanced a great deal when he's metal as opposed to what people think that he's some big slow brick.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Rulk never fought normal colossus. That's it.
It's on panel he did. He fought Colossus who then transformed into Juggernaut midway through the fight and left him on the ground iirc.
What evidence is there he didn't fight Colossus? When he's always shown normal before summoning his helmet and getting glowy eyes or turning into a literal rage demon?
Originally posted by abhilegendFace it man, you're defeated.....Again.
So steering away from the scene again. Prove that he only did that with his helmet as you claimed.And who wins here? Enough dancing from you already. Rulk never fought normal colossus. That's it.
Now as for the fight......Namor should win a very tough one but that depends on the environment. If the fight went to the water Namor for sure but Colossus don't breathe so that will help a little.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And are you suggesting colossus is anywhere near Thor or hulk in durability? ****ing wrecker almost killed him with one shot in the very same series.
A sneak shot to the back where he was already injured and Wrecker was written at near if not full power if I recall.
I get it, you hate characters who are against characters you vote for. But I'm just pointing out what was stated on panel. Unless that wasn't what was stated.
Originally posted by abhilegendAnd in that same story when the Beyonder blew everyone up guess who's body was less damaged than the rest?
And are you suggesting colossus is anywhere near Thor or hulk in durability? ****ing wrecker almost killed him with one shot in the very same series.
I'll give you a minute.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Face it man, you're defeated.....Again.Now as for the fight......Namor should win a very tough one but that depends on the environment. If the fight went to the water Namor for sure but Colossus don't breathe so that will help a little.
Originally posted by KingD19
It's on panel he did. He fought Colossus who then transformed into Juggernaut midway through the fight and left him on the ground iirc.What evidence is there he didn't fight Colossus? When he's always shown normal before summoning his helmet and getting glowy eyes or turning into a literal rage demon?
Originally posted by KingD19
A sneak shot to the back where he was already injured and Wrecker was written at near if not full power if I recall.I get it, you hate characters who are against characters you vote for. But I'm just pointing out what was stated on panel. Unless that wasn't what was stated.
Spidey did better than him in that series.She hulk beat all of them in one page. Face it, colossus is a chump.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
And in that same story when the Beyonder blew everyone up guess who's body was less damaged than the rest?I'll give you a minute.