Revised: What if the Galactic Empire invaded Earth

Originally posted by hewhoknowsall, (I tip my hat to him to give that idea)

this time there are no limits on the Empire.

they have full access to their tech and weapons.

the Galactic Empire Empire is at their full peak of their power (Time between Episode 3 and 4)

Now, who would win in a conventional form of warfare:

Imperial infantry vs Earth infantry?

Imperial tanks, vehicles vs Earth Tanks and Vehicles?

Imperial weapons, armor vs Earth weapons, armor?

Imperial Air Power vs Earth Air Power?

disregarding the use of superweapons on both sides on this one. but in any case do you think Nuclear Weapons can deter Imperial land invasion on Earth should the situation arises?

Can Vader, and Emperor Palpatine can handle Earth Armies personally as well?

Since we don't have the capacity to fight in space, I will disregard the Imperial use of Orbital Bombardment from their Star Destroyers and of course the Death Star.

Note: The Rebel Alliance is out of the Question. since this the time before Episode 4 ANH, the Rebel Alliance is yet to form. Earth Stands alone in this fight.

Let's regard the reality of combat and try not based on the movies.

Now let me know what you think, then I will post my arguments.

Empire solidly.

We'd get raped.

Lmfao. Empire stomps the living shit out of us.

Our bullets can't penetrate Stormtrooper plastoid armor. Their blaster bolts can conversely blast right through any defenses we have.

Our nukes don't have the energy output to even take out the shields of an average Imperial Star Destroyer, even if we fired several warheads at a single ISD.

They outnumber us a thousand to one.

We just don't stand a chance at all, whatsoever. One of Palpatine's inquisitors goes to a peace talk and mind-tricks all of our leaders into nuking one another, the end.

LOL, good point.

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But yeah, Empire stomps.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
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Tech manuals say that per shot a turbolaser from an Acclamator class star destroyer is 200 Gigatons. That's 200,000 Megatons and is capable of destroying multiple Islands. In comparison the most powerful Nuke we've ever created was the Tsar Bomba, which is 50 Megatons, 100 at best.

Here's a picture comparing infantry weapon. On the left is a .50 caliber round making an small hole in a wall that was designed purposely to be as weak as possible to see the maximum damage the gun can do. On the right is a hole made by Han Solo's Blaster Pistol. The wall in question is made of enhanced Ferrocrete I believe from EU sources. Even disregarding EU sources the wall that was used for the .50 cal was weak anyways, so it's a good comparison on the weapons power.

Just for future reference, can someone give me a source that has numbers on how fast blaster fire is compared to guns. Some people say that blasters are not actually faster than guns which is quite curious.

dude wtf we curbstomp the Empire. Send all our nukes out, they're dead, and stormtroopers have terrible training and can't aim. Their armor looks plastic.

Is this a for real thread cody?

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Just for future reference, can someone give me a source that has numbers on how fast blaster fire is compared to guns. Some people say that blasters are not actually faster than guns which is quite curious.

Depends on the sources. Tech manuals for the most part say Blaster Bolts move at Lightspeeds. In one of the Fate of the Jedi Novels a Blaster Bolt was described as moving a hundred meters in a Nanosecond. If we go just by visuals from the films I might be recalling this wrong but in Attack of the Clones I could have sworn the Blaster Bolts being fired from Padme where actually moving faster than Dooku's ship, which was able to get to orbit in a few seconds.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Depends on the sources. Tech manuals for the most part say Blaster Bolts move at Lightspeeds. In one of the Fate of the Jedi Novels a Blaster Bolt was described as moving a hundred meters in a Nanosecond. If we go just by visuals from the films I might be recalling this wrong but in Attack of the Clones I could have sworn the Blaster Bolts being fired from Padme where actually moving faster than Dooku's ship, which was able to get to orbit in a few seconds.

I think Africa vs the Empire would be more fair

The only way I see the Empire losing is if Bane was in charge TBH.

Bane would get stomped by just about any army, just like he got beaten by mercenaries. He has shown he can't handle large groups of armed men, if he got in charge of an army he'd need a nexus to command them. The Stormtroopers would have no clue what to do.

Hmmm, Bane vs. NAVY Seal team 6.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Here's a picture comparing infantry weapon. On the left is a .50 caliber round making an small hole in a wall that was designed purposely to be as weak as possible to see the maximum damage the gun can do. On the right is a hole made by Han Solo's Blaster Pistol. The wall in question is made of enhanced Ferrocrete I believe from EU sources. Even disregarding EU sources the wall that was used for the .50 cal was weak anyways, so it's a good comparison on the weapons power.

.50 cal is not weak. the bullet was meant for Armor Piercing purposes not blasting the crap of the target. Han's blaster is design to blast the light out of the target by making holes on them.

the reason why a smaller hole is made by the .50 is that is causes penetrated rather than making damages. it cause damages inside the target not outside like Han's blaster.

Originally posted by ILS
dude wtf we curbstomp the Empire. Send all our nukes out, they're dead, and stormtroopers have terrible training and can't aim. Their armor looks plastic.

Is this a for real thread cody?

yup for real...

terrible training and aim? you're referring to the movies yes?

I said that the scenario is a real combat not based on the movies. the big screens makes the heroes, well, good. its like setting the game on 'easy mode' for them.

nukes? well that's one way to put it... but the question now is that is it powerful enough to dissipate the shields of the ISDs (Imperial Star Destroyers)?