Star Wars The Old Republic: Shadow of Revan Expansion

Started by DarthAnt6613 pages

Originally posted by Nephthys
Differences in cutscene's don't confer canonicity.

Well I just checked that and nope.


No like, it was entirely different. Like Yin vs Yang.

Do I really have to scavenge for them, or can you do it on your own?

Originally posted by ares834
Proof?

If he was his full power (or even near it), he would have returned to the physical realm fully, kicked the shit out of Revan, then consume the galaxy (the point of stopping Revan).

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
? Vitiate was on the brink of death, and all those that died (partly) restored him. He didn't get some major amp. And as Ant said, he wasn't at full power anyways (as Satele claimed.) The mass genocide of the entire planet would have allowed for such.

Where does Satele say that? All I've seen her say is that he is "not as strong as he might have been if Revan succeeded. But he was strong enough."

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
No like, it was entirely different. Like Yin vs Yang.

Do I really have to scavenge for them, or can you do it on your own?

Isn't it just two sentences?

Dude, I literally just watched all two of them. Theres no sparkly lights and flash thing.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
If he was his full power (or even near it), he would have returned to the physical realm fully, kicked the shit out of Revan, then consume the galaxy (the point of stopping Revan).

All speculation on your part. And as we see in TOR, full power Vitiate can't consume the galaxy on a whim, he needed a ritual.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Isn't it just two sentences?

Dude, I literally just watched all two of them. Theres no sparkly lights and flash thing.


LOL no. All different animation and everything. All different dialogue, etc etc.
The "two sentences" was the difference between the Wrath and other Imps.

🙄 Go to Foundry battle, and Revan Return's trailer.

Originally posted by ares834
All speculation on your part. And as we see in TOR, full power Vitiate can't consume the galaxy on a whim, he needed a ritual.

Speculation based off of evidence. And Vitiate there was far weaker then what he is becoming now.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Speculation based off of evidence. And Vitiate there was far weaker then what he has become now.

So you're claiming TOR Vitiate is weaker than he is now. Right?

No. Current Vitiate is too weak to even stay in the physical realm. He will be far greater then 1.0 TOR Vitiate by 4.0, though, yeah.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
LOL no. All different animation and everything. All different dialogue, etc etc.
The "two sentences" was the difference between the Wrath and other Imps.

🙄 Go to Foundry battle, and Revan Return's trailer.

Yeah, the difference between the Wrath and other Imps is what I'm talking about.

Yes, I'm watching the Foundry battle. He glows with a yellow light as you walk up to him, which is totally different from the thing we're talking about. In the Revan's Return trailer they show him using lightning, but thats it.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
No. Current Vitiate is too weak to even stay in the physical realm. He will be far greater then 1.0 TOR Vitiate by 4.0, though, yeah.

😬

That he is unable to create a body doesn't mean he weaker than he was in TOR.

Originally posted by ares834
😬

That he is unable to create a body doesn't mean he weaker than he was in TOR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5cA6ePVLDY&t=15m56s

Originally posted by ares834
Where does Satele say that? All I've seen her say is that he is "not as strong as he might have been if Revan succeeded. But he was strong enough."

There's nothing backing the notion that he'd been at full power, and the scores of dead amplified it to new levels, or that they brought him from the brink of death to beyond his full power, (which wouldn't matter anyways, lest you discount the Nathema ritual as well.) If he'd been full power, he would have come back to physical form, which was literally the entire point of Revan's plot. Aka, "He wasn't as strong as he might have been if Revan brought him back to physical form, but he was strong enough to make a nuke." Even before this ordeal, it was stated at least twice that Revan stood no chance against the Emperor, and that his power makes the Dread Master's seem insignificant in comparison. He's head, shoulders knees and toes above any other individual of the era, and nothing can change that.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, the difference between the Wrath and other Imps is what I'm talking about.

Yes, I'm watching the Foundry battle. He glows with a yellow light as you walk up to him, which is totally different from the thing we're talking about. In the Revan's Return trailer they show him using lightning, but thats it.


Oh okay. You should have specified.

They don't show Revan using lightning.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5cA6ePVLDY&t=15m56s

Your point? How does that mean he is weaker exactly?

Originally posted by ares834
Your point? How does that mean he is weaker exactly?

😬 It was a reaction to Vitiate's power, not a argumentative reply. Confusion should be cleared up by 3.1 though, hopefully.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Oh okay. You should have specified.

They don't show Revan using lightning.

Why? When tal;king about what makes the Wrath the canon class it should be assumed I'm asking bout what makes it canon over all classes, not just the Republic ones.

That's the lightning storm animation.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
There's nothing backing the notion that he'd been at full power, and the scores of dead amplified it to new levels, or that they brought him from the brink of death to beyond his full power, (which wouldn't matter anyways, lest you discount the Nathema ritual as well.)

Which is a good thing I didn't state that.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
If he'd been full power, he would have come back to physical form, which was literally the entire point of Revan's plot. Aka, "He wasn't as strong as he might have been if Revan brought him back to physical form, but he was strong enough to make a nuke." Even before this ordeal, it was stated at least twice that Revan stood no chance against the Emperor, and that his power makes the Dread Master's seem insignificant in comparison. He's head, shoulders knees and toes above any other individual of the era, and nothing can change that. [/B]

Sure he is more powerful than anyone else at the time. No arguments there.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Why? When tal;king about what makes the Wrath the canon class it should be assumed I'm asking bout what makes it canon over all classes, not just the Republic ones.

That's the lightning storm animation.


Because it has the most content and is the most impactful to the story. 😐

Nope, it's the scene where Revan does his fancy Force Fold trick or whatever.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Because it has the most content and is the most impactful to the story. 😐

Nope, it's the scene where Revan does his fancy Force Fold trick or whatever.

Like I said, that alone doesn't strictly indicate it's the canon one. Maybe it should be or will be, but maybe maybe maybe.

Either way, its not the same.